Dave Crocker should be shunned! Was (More from the Crock)

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Roeland and all,

  Roeland you are exactly correct in your assessment of Dave Crocker.  He is well

known for his personal attacks on others that do not agree with his rather
twisted point
of view on anything.  He may be suffering form some sort of demented delusion
and may need some professional mental help.  His behavior patterns on various
mailing lists (IAHC-Discuss, Domain Policy, and gtld-MoU-discuss) have been
noticed by many over the past several years as being distorted and a direct
attempt
to discredit anyone that doesn't agree with his point of view.  This is indeed a
seriously
mentally disturbed person and should be SHUNNED!

Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:

> At 11:29 AM 8/1/98 -0700, Dave Crocker wrote:
> >At 08:39 AM 8/1/98 -0700, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
> >>At 07:16 AM 8/1/98 -0700, Dave Crocker wrote:
> >>>At 11:41 PM 7/31/98 -0700, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
> >>>>I'm including this whole message because you make an unfounded accusation
> >>>>and I want folks to see it. I believe that you owe me an apology.
> >>>
> >>>Well, I'm sorry you don't see how offensive your note was.  Including lots
> >>>more text didn't change the nature or degree of that offense at all.  The
> >>>points I made stand.
> >>
> >>Somehow, I am not really surprised by your stance. I have often seen you
> >>pick fights in this manner. Accuse some one of an offence, while egging
> >
> >Roeland, please remember that this started by your own inappropriate and
> >dismissive assessment of the EC and of Don Heath.
>
> No it didn't. It started by your ad hominem attack agaist me, directly. The
> statement I made, based on news reports, did not constitute any sort of
> attack, on anyone, except that you, personally, chose to use it to pick a
> fight. Since I tried my best to make that message neutral and I believe
> that I succeeded, you are off-base. Jeez, you're not even in the same park.
>
> >>From that you have now decided that someone's taking exception to your
> >unprofessional statements is not acceptable.
>
> Your catagorization isn't fair nor is it accurate (at which, I'm not
> terribly surprised). That Don Heath has dealings with the EC is a matter of
> fact. Published fact at that. To highlight such dealings, as a matter of
> record, is not unprofessional. However to purposely mis-construe such
> statements as an ad hominem attack, is as unprofessional as it gets. It's a
> form of lie. Which I am given to understand, by others, you are very good at.
>
> >Rather than following up your first attack by then attacking the person
> >offering feedback about your behavior, please consider changing it.
>
> Excuse me, but I replied in kind, as your message deserved. In fact, I
> purposely made it a mirror reflection of your message. If you find that
> this constitutes an ad hominem attack then I suggest that the same is true
> of your original message to me. I also offered simple criticism of your
> message, suggesting that you refrain from selective editing of quoted
> material, suggesting that you refrain from condescending ad hominem
> attacks, and a request to stop reading into my messages that which isn't
> there.
>
> >Your first attack created an ad hominem context.  You need to get away from
> >that, rather than do more of it.
>
> Ahhh, Dave, I am only a reflection of you. A mirror of self. Tit-for-tat,
> the only solution to the prisoner's dilemma. A perfect mirror is the best
> defensive shield. I do not attack you, you attack yourself. I decided on
> this strategy after the last go-round.
>
> My messages to you will change when yours do.
>
> It would be nice of you to drop this unprofessional behaviour. BTW, thanks
> to you, yet another productive thread goes up in smoke.
>
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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