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[ifwp] powers of the Initial Board (fwd)
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- Subject: [ifwp] powers of the Initial Board (fwd)
- From: Jim Dixon <jdd@matthew.uk1.vbc.net>
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:31:39 +0000 (GMT)
- cc: Geraldine Capdeboscq <geraldine.capdeboscq@bull.fr>, George Conrades <gconrades@polarisventures.com>, Greg Crew <gregcrew@iaccess.com.au>, Esther Dyson <edyson@edventure.com>, Frank Fitzsimmons <fitzsimmon@dnb.com>, Hans Kraaijenbrink <H.Kraaijenbrink@kpn-telecom.nl>, Professor Jun Marai <junsec@wide.ad.jp>, "Linda S. Wilson" <linda_wilson@radcliffe.edu>, Eugenio Triana <etrigar@teleline.es>, Joe Sims <Joe_Sims@jonesday.com>, Mike Roberts <mmr@darwin.ptvy.ca.us>, dnspolicy@ntia.doc.gov, comments@iana.org, bburr@ntia.doc.gov, Ira_C._Magaziner@oa.eop.gov, Mark.Harrington@mail.house.gov, Charles.Pickering@mail.house.gov, Gil.Gutknecht@mail.house.gov, jim.barcia-pub@mail.house.gov, Tom.Davis@mail.house.gov, Rep.Morella@mail.house.gov, Rep.E.B.Johnson@mail.house.gov, Jim.Wilson@mail.house.gov, talk2geb@mail.house.gov, Richard.Russell@mail.house.gov, John Wood <johnwood@link.org>, Barbara Dooley <bdooley@cix.org>, Tony Harris <oportunidades@redynet.com.ar>, Ron Kawchuk <kawchuk@idirect.com>, deb.howard@2cowherd.net, Michael Schneider <sastre@anwalt.de>, Fred.Eisner@nlip.nl
The message that follows was sent to each member of the board of
the Internet Corporation for Numbers and Names, ICANN. This group
hopes that ICANN will succeed IANA, the body which has for many
years acted as a focal point for cooperation in the management of the
Internet and so has been of crucial importance to those who operate
the Internet backbone, the world's Internet service providers.
In a week in which the ICANN board made repeated statements about
the importance of openness and transparency, it seems odd that
none of them was willing to answer these few simple questions.
It seems, to me at least, that it is very important that if ICANN is
to replace IANA that it show that it is worthy of the trust that the
Internet community placed in IANA. As it stands, the ICANN board is
just something that appeared out of nowhere. No one has admitted
choosing this board. No one on the board seems able to recall who
selected them. Given the great importance of the Internet in the
future economy of the world, and given the importance of ICANN's
proposed role in the Internet, these lapses are extraordinary.
The questions that follow have to do with ICANN's intentions. There
are clear suggestions that the Interim Board tends to act quickly on
many decisions of crucial importance to the Internet. This would
seem to be extremely imprudent. The Interim Board lacks any mandate
from the Internet community for precipitate action. In fact, one of
the points made repeatedly in the recent series of international
conferences, the International Forum on the White Paper, was that
the role of the Initial Board was simply to prepare the way for the
permanent Board, and that specifically no new gTLDs should be
delegated.
Note that question (d) below has been answered; the Initial Board
has just released a sixth iteration of the proposed ICANN bylaws. To
many of us it seems ominous (and yet rather sad) that among the changes
to the IANA draft bylaws is that many limitations on the power of the
ICANN board have been eliminated.
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:11:36 +0000 (GMT)
From: Jim Dixon <jdd@matthew.uk1.vbc.net>
To: IFWP Discussion List <list@ifwp.org>
Cc: IFWP Discussion List <list@ifwp.org>,
Geraldine Capdeboscq <geraldine.capdeboscq@bull.fr>,
George Conrades <gconrades@polarisventures.com>,
Greg Crew <gregcrew@iaccess.com.au>,
Esther Dyson <edyson@edventure.com>,
Frank Fitzsimmons <fitzsimmon@dnb.com>,
Hans Kraaijenbrink <H.Kraaijenbrink@kpn-telecom.nl>,
Professor Jun Marai <junsec@wide.ad.jp>,
"Linda S. Wilson" <linda_wilson@radcliffe.edu>,
Eugenio Triana <etrigar@teleline.es>, Joe Sims <Joe_Sims@jonesday.com>,
Mike Roberts <mmr@darwin.ptvy.ca.us>
Subject: [ifwp] powers of the Initial Board
Yesterday I was told that an authoritative spokesman for ICANN told my
contact that
a. the ICANN Initial Board has all the powers of the full board
b. the Initial Board intends to use these powers to appoint
the Barcelona DNSO as the ICANN domain names support organization
no later than 15 December, and
c. the Initial Board also intends to delegate new gTLDs very
soon
I have also been assured by various other sources that
d. the Initial Board intends to adopt a set of bylaws of its own
devising
This last point would of course be against the rules set down by the
IANA 5th iteration bylaws.
The first three items raise grave concerns about the bona fides of the
ICANN Initial Board. Your firm assurance that the Initial Board
recognizes that its powers are limited, that any recognition of a
domain name support organization must have support from all interested
parties, and in particular that the Initial Board will not delegate
any new gTLDs would do much to clear the air.
Comments on the fourth point would also be helpful. While of course
the board of any corporation normally has the power to set whatever
bylaws it wishes, the IANA articles and bylaws were the outcome of a
long consultative process, including of course the IFWP conferences.
The support that ICANN has has been based on the published IANA articles
and bylaws. If the Initial Board is going to create a new set of bylaws
de novo, this would seem to suggest that ICANN would have to renegotiate
terms with all those who have supported it in whatever degree.
--
Jim Dixon Managing Director
VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.vbc.net tel +44 117 929 1316
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Member of Council Telecommunications Director
Internet Services Providers Association EuroISPA EEIG
http://www.ispa.org.uk http://www.euroispa.org
tel +44 171 976 0679 tel +32 2 503 22 65
>From jdd@matthew.uk1.vbc.netMon Nov 9 21:51:59 1998
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:45:41 +0100 (BST)
From: Jim Dixon <jdd@matthew.uk1.vbc.net>
To: dnspolicy@ntia.doc.gov
Cc: comments@iana.org, postel@iana.org, bburr@ntia.doc.gov,
Ira_C._Magaziner@oa.eop.gov, Mark.Harrington@mail.house.gov,
Charles.Pickering@mail.house.gov, Gil.Gutknecht@mail.house.gov,
jim.barcia-pub@mail.house.gov, Tom.Davis@mail.house.gov,
Rep.Morella@mail.house.gov, Rep.E.B.Johnson@mail.house.gov,
Jim.Wilson@mail.house.gov, talk2geb@mail.house.gov,
Richard.Russell@mail.house.gov, Barbara Dooley <bdooley@cix.org>,
Tony Harris <oportunidades@redynet.com.ar>,
Ron Kawchuk <kawchuk@idirect.com>, deb.howard@2cowherd.net,
Michael Schneider <sastre@anwalt.de>,
"Fred.Eisner" <nlip.nl@matthew.uk1.vbc.net>
Subject: ISPA UK statement on Management of Internet Names and Addresses
13 October 1998
Honorable William M Daley
Secretary of Commerce
c/o Karen Rose
Office of International Affairs
National Telecommunications and Information Administration
United States Department of Commerce
14th and Constitution Avenue, NW
Washington DC 20230
Dear Secretary Daley,
The United Kingdom Internet Services Providers Association (ISPA UK,
http://www.ispa.org.uk) is a trade association representing Internet
Service Providers providing most of the Internet connectivity in the
UK. ISPA UK is a member of EuroISPA (http://www.euroispa.org), the
pan-European federation of Internet trade associations.
On behalf of ISPA UK I would like to express our support of the
recently-submitted statement of Dr Alfred Eisner of NLIP, the Dutch
Internet trade association, regarding shortcomings in the structure
of the Internet Corporation for Names and Numbers. A copy of Dr
Eisner's statement is attached. Please note that it is also endorsed
by eco, the German Internet trade association (http://www.eco.de).
In a letter to you on 2 October Dr Jon Postel of IANA proposed that
ICANN assume responsibility for the management of Internet names and
numbers, in effect subsuming IANA's existing role in this regard.
That is, ICANN is to become the "new corporation" of the recent
White Paper on this subject.
The objective of this new corporation is the self-regulation of the
Internet industry. It is therefore surprising to us and a matter of
great concern that the Internet industry has not been consulted in
regard to the selection of the Initial Board for ICANN, nor do its
articles and bylaws give the world's ISPs any particular voice in
its management. In light of the fact that we are the industry being
"self"-regulated, in light of the fact that there are at least
proposals that the ISPs should fund the new corporation, and in
light of the fact that industry cooperation is essential to the
new corporation's success, this is inexplicable.
While the rapid pace of developments in this area have made it
impossible for the EuroISPA council to meet to formally ratify
Dr Eisner's statement, we know that other ISPs across Europe feel
the same misgivings about the lack of ISP representation in the
management of the new corporation. In fact we know of no ISP
association anywhere in the world that supports it.
We do not wish to delay the transition to the new system for
global management of Internet names and numbers. We believe that it
is vital that IANA's role in this be maintained. However, we also
believe that it is essential for the success of this exercise in
industry self-regulation that representatives of the industry being
regulated have a significant voice in it. Without the participation
and the endorsement of the ISPs, it cannot succeed.
To this end we propose that the NTIA delay acceptance of the IANA/ICANN
proposal until such time as they agree to negotiate in good faith with
representives of the global Internet industry, with the object of that
negotiation being a voice for industry in its self-regulation.
Yours sincerely,
--
Jim Dixon Managing Director
VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.vbc.net tel +44 117 929 1316
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Member of Council Telecommunications Director
Internet Services Providers Association EuroISPA EEIG
http://www.ispa.org.uk http://www.euroispa.org
tel +44 171 976 0679 tel +32 2 503 22 65
------------------------ STATEMENT OF ALFRED EISNER -----------------------
-------------- FOR NLIP, THE DUTCH INTERNET TRADE ASSOCIATION -------------
October 12th 1998
To: NTIA and Secretary Mr. Daley
From: Several ISP-organisations, by way of Alfred Eisner (pres./CEO of NLIP
Dutch ISPA)
Subject: ICANN
With regard to the published DNSPOLICY we would like to draw your attention
to what we think is a major shortcoming in the rules for and the board of
ICANN. This flaw seriously threatens the effect and working conditions of ICANN.
"We" in this case are ISP's almost worldwide. Representatives of
ISP-organisations of EU, US, Canada, and others. We met in Ottawa oct. 8th.
in the margin of the OECD-conference, and we all expressed our deeply felt
worries concerning this matter.
Notwithstanding the fact that a lot of good work has been done to reach some
kind of consen sus, the result is not completely satisfactory and does in
its present form NOT guarantee quality and continuity. The shortcoming we
are referring to is the fact that, where the issueing and control of
domainnames and ip-addresses is of crucial importance to the correct functio
ning of the Internet as being delivered to the public by ISP's, there is no
direct influence of those ISP's in running and controlling ICANN.
Since ICANN's policy and operational decisions are to be implemented by us
(ISP's) in the worldwide DNS's, and are largely to be paid for by us (and
indirectly by our customers), this complete lack of say in these matters is
unacceptable. And, just for the record: we are not and feel not in any way
represented by people from telco's, networkoperators or large computer or
software companies. One might even say: on the contrary. They are not ISP's.
To put it more abstractly: Industry-selfregulation without the crucial
sector of industry being represented, is a strange idea in itself. It is
definitely not industry selfregulation.
We are unable to discover valid reasons which could justify the exclusion of
ISP's from direct
representation in the Interim Board (now) and the final board (later). If
this oversight is not duly corrected, the conclusion will have to be that
the Interim and final Board do not constitute a valid industry self regulation.
To solve this we propose that you allow one more change in the bylaws,
leading to the effect that ISP's are directly and adequately represented.
Adequately will mean a substantive part of the board. To repair the
situation at hand as soon as possible, we ask also that the interim board
acts accordingly in their future appointments from the beginning.
With kind regards,
yours truly,
A. Eisner (Netherlands), M. Langford (Canada), M. Schneider (Germany). CIX
(USA) is also with us, but will send their reaction separately.
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