[alac-comments] Re: [atlarge-discuss] F/U from Canadian @large regional rep ICANN@large fantasy continues ....

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Joe and all,

  Joe, I agree with your remarks and comments below entirely.  ICANN
has and continues to make a mess out of the DNS, as well as in the process
impeding on registrants personal privacy and security.  This is particularly
dangerous and will lead to additional exposure to terrorists potential
planning of attacks.

  I also share much of Danny's thoughts as well as do a majority of our
[INEGroup] members.  Yet the ICANN board and staff are not listening
unless such input suites their own pre-determined point of view or
entrenched attitude towards policy making.

  It is clear though that Danny has in part been self deluded that ICANN
can be reformed from within or be self accountable.

Joe Baptista wrote:

> Hi Sotiris:
>
> Notes to the masses ... Mr. Sotiris Sotiropoulos is the canadian regional
> contact for the icann @ large committee ester dyson was recently shamed
> by.  He's a good egg.
>
> http://www.icannatlarge.org/regional.htm
>
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2003, Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
>
> > Joe et al.,
> >
> > There's no denying that the DNS is one of the most important
> > infrastructures on the internet.  At this point, I'm thinking the best kind
> > of public input we could submit to ICANN at their behest is a petition
> > voicing displeasure at their activities and handling of the DNS to date.
> > Every other kind of public input will only help to legitimize their claims
> > of "public/community input and involvement".
>
> I agree.  I know Danny has some faith the process will some day be saved.
> But as you know I predicted ICANN would make a mess of the dns some five
> or more years ago and I have been proven right.  Indeed it is a dogs
> breakfast.  I certainly would support a petition with copies to all U.S.
> senate and Congress members.
>
> Of course my time these days is in supporting the inclusive namespace
> community and I do that every day I publish my url
>
>                 www.baptista.god
>
> as you can see it gets icanns attention - at least the root server
> operators are seeing it ... which see
>
>     http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29185.html
>
> The icann@large community of users should simply take my lead and support
> the inclusive namespace.  It's the place to be ;)  And as I have
> repeatedly pointed out - the end user is in charge which essentially means
> you - the user and every user.
>
> Maybe a petition should be considered in support of the inclusive
> namespace community - which see www.tlda.net and members of the
> alternative root community - which see
>
>     http://www.dot-god.com/resources/ROOT.html
>
> After all these are the only people who are expanding namespace and
> working co-operatively.  And the only people who will give the atlarge a
> seat at the table as an equal member.
>
> regards
> joe baptista
>
> >
> > --Sotiris
> >
> >
> > > The domain name system (DNS) is one of the most important
> > > infrastructures on the internet.  Individuals who are internerested in
> > > DNS issues should investigate this invitation by Danny Younger.  Danny
> > > is the former General Assembly Chair of the Domain Name Supporting
> > > Organization (www.dnso.org) of the Internet Corporation for Assigned
> > > Names and Numbers
> > > (www.icann.org).
> > >
> > > Danny has some strong comments for ICANN which I feel are completly
> > > justified.  The U.S. government has made a mess of the domain name
> > > system it was entrusted with.  All of the attempts to incorporate
> > > internet user participation in the U.S. based DNS governance model has
> > > been a complete fantasy - indeed a hoax on the global internet user
> > > base.  After all - look at the people involved in the At-Large Advisory
> > > Committee.  The usual suspects including one Ester Dyson who was
> > > recently shown the door by one of the at large organizations.
> > >
> > > But on the positive side of the equation the U.S. governments attempts
> > > to control the DNS are based on a myth - i.e. that they are in charge
> > > of the global dns.  This is not the case. It is true that most
> > > distributed DNS software comes preconfigured with the USG root
> > > (government system) as a default.  But that can be quickly changed with
> > > a text editor and five minutes time.  In fact the truth of DNS control
> > > resides with the end users.
> > >
> > > Of course a non government DNS system now exists which replaces the
> > > current USG model.
> > >
> > > regards
> > > joe baptista
> > >
> > > On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 DannyYounger@xxxxxx wrote:
> > >
> > >> ICANN has posted an announcement:
> > >>
> > >> Five Days Left to Comment on At-Large Advisory Committee's Proposed
> > >> Criteria and Accreditation Process for At-Large Structures and
> > >> Guidelines for Regional At-Large Organizations
> > >>
> > >> Suggestion... why don't we let them know what we really think of their
> > >> bullshit?
> > >>
> > >> Comments are invited through 23 April 2003, and should be sent to
> > >> alac-comments@xxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Joe Baptista - only at www.baptista.god
> > >
> > >    Marine Net http://gr.ind
> > >
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