Re: [alac] Africa Position Marrakech

[Annette Muehlberg <annette.muehlberg@xxxxxx>]

dear Alice,

alice@xxxxxxx wrote:

> Hi Annette and all
> Thank you for this thread, however,  I would like to consult with the 
> wider African internet user groups Re; issues that they wish ALAC 
> could address at the next ICANN meeting.

Sure, that is even better. ;-)

> Regarding sponsoring ALS's to attend the meeting, does ALAC have a 
> budget line that could support this?

as Jaqueline already answered, just starting budget planning.

> alice
best
annette

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Muehlberg" 
> <annette.muehlberg@xxxxxx>
> To: "Pierre Dandjinou" <dandjinou.pierre@xxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <alice@xxxxxxx>; "'ALAC'" <alac@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [alac] Africa Position Marrakech
>
>
> > Thank you, Pierre, for this important advice.
> >
> > All,
> > up to now, ICANN folks travel around the world from meeting to 
> > meeting, but it is not really clear what this hopping from region to 
> > region is actually good for.
> >
> > I would like to make real use of the regional presence by focusing in 
> > each meeting on some regional issues - within an ALAC workshop and in 
> > the Public Forum.
> >
> > So, Pierre and others, keeping the list of issues below in mind, 
> > could you think of a list of demands we should present to the public 
> > and are worth discussing within a workshop (either as one part of a 
> > more general workshop or one specific workshop only on africa 
> > specific issues)?
> >
> > How important is the IDN issue in Africa? Examples, studies?
> >
> > And who is going to take care of the financing of local ALSes to 
> > come? Do we get another funding?
> >
> > Best
> > Annette
> >
> >
> >
> > Pierre Dandjinou wrote:
> >
> > > Annette and all,
> > >
> > > Some of the issues that are specific to the African community would 
> > > include
> > > the following :
> > >
> > > - The high entry cost for operating registries. (50 k i believe) 
> > > makes it
> > > difficult for African operators to be fully part of the industry; 
> > > thus, only
> > > recently did an african operator (from South Africa) managed to 
> > > obtain an
> > > accreditation from Icann.
> > > - Management of cctlds : most african users do not have the appropriate
> > > informations as to the development of these and most NIC are not
> > > transparently managed.
> > > - Dispute resolution /redelegation as relates to the domain names
> > >
> > > Agree with your point on having a few African ALSes in Marraketch. 
> > > In the
> > > past, we were able to bring a few of them (in tunis I think) thanks 
> > > to a
> > > funding from Infodev.
> > >
> > > Regards to all and congrats for the good job done in Wellington.
> > > Pierre
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-alac@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-alac@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > Annette Muehlberg
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 2:09 PM
> > > To: alice@xxxxxxx
> > > Cc: ALAC
> > > Subject: Re: [alac] Africa Position Marrakech
> > >
> > > Would be good to know, if we could address some specific issues and 
> > > interests by the african community on ICANN issues in Marrakech 
> > > meeting. Proposals?
> > >
> > > Also, it would be nice if at least some member of african ALSes 
> > > could join us there and give inputs in advance.
> > >
> > > Annette
> > >
> > > alice@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Would be interesting to know what mistakes  made in North America 
> > > > in 1960s and how they were addressed. The desire by AfrISPA is not 
> > > > just more bandwidth but use-value for internet, relevant content 
> > > > addresses the use-value of the internet as illustrated in the paper
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John L" <johnl@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <shahshah@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > Cc: <alice@xxxxxxx>; "ALAC" <alac@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 5:21 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [alac] Africa Position Paper on Internet growth 
> > > > through content
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Well it isn't so clear that a statistical study was done. This 
> > > > > > seems to be
> > > > > > a call by African ISPs for what they consider important. They may be
> > > > > > advocating more use of Internet for educating and informing, or a 
> > > > > > call for
> > > > > > 'content' may just mean a desire for more 'bandwidth'. Further, 
> > > > > > because so
> > > > > > much of email is web-based, it is hard to differentiate.
> > > > > I can't tell from the report what they consider important either.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just hope they're not repeating the mistakes we made here in 
> > > > > North America in the 1990s.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > John Levine, johnl@xxxxxxxx, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet 
> > > > > for Dummies",
> > > > > Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, Mayor
> > > > > "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.