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[alac] Why there are chronic delays on mail to the ICANN ALAC list

  • To: ALAC -- ALAC <alac@xxxxxxxxx>, alac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: [alac] Why there are chronic delays on mail to the ICANN ALAC list
  • From: John L <johnl@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:03:16 -0400 (EDT)

Kent introduced them deliberately, because he thinks they're good for us.

No, I am not making this up.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@xxxxxxxx, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://johnlevine.com, Mayor
"I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:35:09 -0700
From: kent <kent@xxxxxxxxx>
To: John L <johnl@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [alac-admin] Re: E-mail spam alert...

On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 12:54:09AM -0400, John L wrote:
greylist-milter.  The milter does whitelist addresses, but we have 4
round-robin mail gateways, and there isn't a global whitelist database.
Frequent correspondents don't get delayed much, since they usually hit all
4
gateways within the whitelist decay -- I make it pretty long to help that.

The delays are a chronic problem on the ALAC lists.

Our perspectives may differ on this :-) and I would be interested to hear your thoughts.

One of ICANN's fundamental goals is to collect reasoned opinions.  One of the
longest standing complaints about ICANN's email lists has been that they
fostered mindless back and forth rather than thoughtful comments.  ICANN has
tried a number different approaches.  We used straight email lists for a
while -- they degenerated into flamefests.  We used a web-based comment forum 
for
a while -- that was just as bad.  We noticed that any highly interactive 
mechanism
tends to foster back and forth ungoverned conversations with tendencies to
go off in wild directions.  Making things *less* interactive, as in the
current comment forum mechanism, has been far more successful in collecting
meaningful input.

The alac seems to be a relatively polite bunch, but one could argue that's
just a function of the current membership dynamics.

So, when you say that the delays are a chronic problem, I would be
interested to know precisely what you see that problem to be.  I certainly
agree that the delays may be chronic.  But why is that a problem?  Are there
really occasions where a half hour delay is a serious issue?



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