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Re: [bc-gnso] Update on TM Rights Protection Mechanisms Negotiations
- To: Phil Corwin <pcorwin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] Update on TM Rights Protection Mechanisms Negotiations
- From: marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:04:41 +0900
I have been so impressed by your commitment to consulting with the
members, zahid! With the daily consultations orga nized by ron , we
had a new experience of collaboration for the constituency--but we did
miss the rest of you due to the time zone!
Let's build on this! I will be hard to reach except by phone
@2023601196 until the blkberry is replaced.
On Oct 30, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Phil Corwin <pcorwin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Zahid:
Your proactive initiatives are exactly what is needed, especially
given the tight tomeframe and the reality that if reasonable
consensus is not achieved ICANN's Board will almost certainly adopt
the staff assimilation that no one wants to see put in place.
So your commendable efforts have my full support.
-Philip
Philip S. Corwin
Partner
Butera & Andrews
1301 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Suite 500
Washington, DC 20004
202-347-6875 (office)
202-347-6876 (fax)
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"Luck is the residue of design." -- Branch Rickey
From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Liz Williams [lizawilliams@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:18 PM
To: Mike O'Connor
Cc: Zahid Jamil; 'bc - GNSO list'
Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] Update on TM Rights Protection Mechanisms
Negotiations
support Mikey's position -- the way you're doing it is the way
forward!
On 29 Oct 2009, at 17:04, Mike O'Connor wrote:
you've got my support. keep at it Zahid. this is precisely the
kind of behavior we need if we're to break out of the "old habits,
old fights" mindset that so clogs the arteries of ICANN.
mikey
On Oct 29, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Zahid Jamil wrote:
Dear All,
Met with ALAC reps today for an hour before the STI meeting. We
found common ground on nearly all essential BC positions.
(facilitated by Alan â ALAC Liaison).
The actual STI meeting took place in a very conducive atmosphere.
The unreasonably short time line set by the Board was discussed.
My feeling is we may have spent too much time on process (40
mins). Jeff Neuman, Jon Nevett and I voiced our desire to get on
with the substantive discussions. Issues were listed and it was
decided that we would focus on them in our discussions over
calls. The group has asked staff to provide information on
whether there will be support available for a face to face meeting
as several members feel some of these issues may not be solvable
otherwise.
After the meeting I spent an hour with NCSG and ALAC. We seem to
have common ground on several of the essential BC positions. NCSG
requested these not be discussed publicly yet. They are also
attempting to see if I can meet with Wendy tomorrow (she as absent
due to her Board meetings). The meeting with her will probably be
important in ensuring that the common ground seemingly achieved is
maintained.
One issue that Registrar and Registry reps did not support was the
notion of a post launch IP Claims service. However, this is on
the issues listed to be discussed.
On another note my sense is that my outreach and attempts to
discuss matters with ALAC and NCSG does not seem to attract any
support (in fact in some respects I sense the opposite). This is
a cause for concern.
Sincerely,
Zahid Jamil
Barrister-at-law
Jamil & Jamil
Barristers-at-law
219-221 Central Hotel Annexe
Merewether Road, Karachi. Pakistan
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From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Zahid Jamil
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 12:14 AM
To: 'bc - GNSO list'
Subject: [bc-gnso] Update on TM Rights Protection Mechanisms
Negotiations
Today the 3 days of off line negotiations and reaching out to the
ALAC and NCSG on the issue of the IRT Report and the RPMs were
successful.
3 hours of discussion (with the help of the ALAC- Alan and Cheryl)
on Monday with NCSG reps (Kathryn Kleiman and Konstantinos
Komaitis) followed by discussions through yesterday were
successful in providing background and a context to the BC
position on the IRT Report.
Initially on the Council list the NCSG had indicated and
unwillingness of the IRT being available as a resource.
Summary of points for discussion that were discussed were (subject
to them being taken back to the NCSG):
Welcome the IRT and other resources being available to the GNSO
Working Group working on the Boardâs letter regarding the RPMs (
ie. STI review team).
At the session on Thursday (today) express the willingness that
NCSG had for reaching out constructively to the GNSO community
(language discussed included reaching common ground).
The GNSO passed a Resolution today with the support of the NCSG
stating:
The assistance of members of the IRT in answering questions about
the IP Clearinghouse and Uniform Rapid Suspension System
recommendations may be useful to this work. The GNSO Council
requests that members of the IRT who worked on those
recommendations be available to answer any such questions that may
arise;
I believe that possibly a more integral part than the discussion
with Kathy in achieving this was the efforts of members from other
Constituency(s) that may have helped mediate this resolution
through.
In todayâs session on Trademark Protection and new gTLDs (transc
ript attached):
Kathy responded positively and at the end of her first
intervention stated:
â....we in the NCUC want to work with you. We want to establish
common ground, and we wish the best of luck for all of us in th
is expedited process.â
She even went as far as saying in regards the IRT URS
recommendation for Appeal:
â.....and I have to say it, and I guess I'm on the record, the I
RT kind of got this one right and let's go back to that.â
This was met with equal good will by CSG members:
J. Scott, now President of the IPC said:
âI worked with Kathy Kleiman, and we drafted the UDRP final vers
ion with Louis Touton and a group of other talented people, many
of whom are here today................We just want to solve a p
roblem. That's what we're here to do. We want to work with reg
istries, registrars, NCUC. That's what we're here for. We're p
roblem solvers. We want to solve the problem. Thank you for th
e opportunity, and we look forward to working together in the ne
ar future.
Zahid Jamil BC Councillor said:
âFirst of all, I would like to acknowledge and thank Kathy for t
he NCUC's constructive invitation to work with goodwill.
We look forward to the sentiment continuing in the GNSO. So thank
you for that..........â
With respect to several aspects of the IRT Solutions it seems that
NCSG and BC may be able to find common ground.
I am sure there must have been much discussion in the NCSG itself
about taking these positions after discussing matters with the BC
and other individuals. So Kudos to Kathy and Kostantino for
achieving success for not letting down our discussions from Monday
for which I have thanked them.
Efforts of Alan and Cheryl to set up some of the atmosphere for
the interaction also helped.
Also in other private discussions this evening with some ALAC reps
it seems that there may be even more common ground possible with
the BC positions.
This sentiment seems to have created an atmosphere which may
enable some parties with divergent views reaching consensus on
some aspects at least. I hope this interaction will also help BC,
NCSG and ALAC collaborating on other issues in the future.
Through private meetings tomorrow leading up to the STI session I
hope this sentiment continues.
Will report back after tomorrows STI meeting.
Sincerely,
Zahid Jamil
Barrister-at-law
Jamil & Jamil
Barristers-at-law
219-221 Central Hotel Annexe
Merewether Road, Karachi. Pakistan
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