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Re: [bc-gnso] Last Call: BC Position on New TLD Registry Agreement Amendments DAG v3
- To: "Ron Andruff" <randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] Last Call: BC Position on New TLD Registry Agreement Amendments DAG v3
- From: Jon Nevett <jon@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:56:57 -0400
Agreed. Rogue by definition refers to unprincipled or dishonest actors, so I
think we are ok with registries that are just unique, but not rogue.
Thanks.
Jon
On Mar 31, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Ron Andruff wrote:
> Marilyn,
>
> Regarding your comment on ‘rogue’ registries, this refers specifically to
> undertakings that are deemed to damage the integrity of the Internet and
> ICANN, which ultimately harms both individual users and specific communities.
> For example the current managers of .TRAVEL have been using that registry as
> their ‘own pool of domain names’, which irrespective of other’s IP rights are
> purchased and held in a separate company (held 100% by the managers of
> .TRAVEL) which has been set up solely to try to monetize their .TRAVEL domain
> names. In order to do this, they first established a self-serving bulk
> purchase policy at massive discounts to the industry retail price. These are
> the types of rogue issues that we are recommending ICANN address in the new
> gTLD contracts – specifically by providing compliance with effective tools to
> allow them to address the types of issues noted above as soon as they arise.
>
> Hope this helps to clarify the matter for you and all of the members.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> RA
>
> Ronald N. Andruff
> President
>
> RNA Partners, Inc.
> 220 Fifth Avenue
> New York, New York 10001
> + 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11
>
> From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Marilyn Cade
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:42 AM
> To: bc - GNSO list
> Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Last Call: BC Position on New TLD Registry Agreement
> Amendments DAG v3
>
>
> Thanks, Steve, Jon, and Ron, for your work on this position. I largely
> support the perspective in the document.
>
> However, I would propose a change: I think that your use of domain name
> tasting as an example is actually not fully factual. I'd propose that you
> simply strike that example. The PDP 06 is a better example, but I don't think
> you should substitute it. Instead, just strike the reference to the specific
> example. [first paragraph under the source: citation].
> It would take too much time and detail to factually explain this topic. I'd
> propose just to remove it as an example.
>
> Background to why I am proposing that change: The BC [and IPC] led a
> significant effort to push forward awareness of kiting, tasting, and parking,
> against considerable opposition from some other constituencies within ICANN.
> The data gathering efforts, which included informational exchanges with the
> ICANN staff and Board, and by some members of the BC with legal and
> operational staff was very challenging. The PDP process could have
> floundered due to lack of support by some of the constituencies. Some
> parties in the business community undertook extensive work, outside of ICANN,
> to deal with aggregious tasting/parking/kiting when it involved trademarked
> names. These actions helped to educate and inform ICANN staff and Board.
> Ultimately, it was the combination of external and awareness efforts that
> built willingness to address this contentious issue within the ICANN PDP
> process.
>
> Overall comment: In reading this, i would note that the BC needs to be very
> sensitive in our positions, focusing on our role and responsibility as the
> BC, to be business user centric. Business users are affected by these
> policies differently than the supplier/contracted parties are.
>
> Finally, there is a reference to 'rogue issues', or 'rogue registry'. A
> registry with very unique characteristics, such as a brands focused registry,
> might find certain requirements impossible to agree to -- e.g. the transfer
> of the registry operations in the event of a decision to close the registry.
> This would not make them a 'rogue' registry.
>
> Marilyn Cade
> speaking in individual capacity as a BC member
>
>
> From: icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: bc-GNSO@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Last Call: BC Position on New TLD Registry Agreement
> Amendments DAG v3
> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:04:29 -0700
>
> Thanks Steve, Jon and Ron. I support this position.
>
> Mike Rodenbaugh
> RODENBAUGH LAW
> tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087
> http://rodenbaugh.com
>
> From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Steve DelBianco
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:31 PM
> To: bc-GNSO@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bc-gnso] Last Call: BC Position on New TLD Registry Agreement
> Amendments DAG v3
>
> Last call, folks. Below is the draft BC position on new TLD Registry
> Agreement Amendments.
>
> Ron Andruff and Jon Nevett provided the draft. I’ve signaled my agreement,
> as did Berry Cobb.
>
> Absent objections by COB tomorrow, we will file as consensus BC comments on
> 1-Apr-2010.
>
> --Steve
>
> Business & Commercial Users’ Constituency (BC)
> Position/Comments on Process for Amendments to New gTLD Registry Agreements
> The Commercial and Business Users Constituency (BC) welcomes the opportunity
> to comment on the New gTLD Program Explanatory Memorandum on the Process for
> Amendments to New gTLD Registry Agreements, which was published for public
> comment on February 15, 2010 (see
> http://icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-4-15feb10-en.htm ).
>
> ICANN seeks comment as to a fair process to amend New TLD registry
> agreements. In DAG v.3, ICANN proposed that it could unilaterally amend
> registry agreements even after a majority of the registry operators rejected
> such amendments. The Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) recently has
> proposed a system of good faith negotiations between ICANN and the registry
> operators, but that each registry would have a veto on proposed changes to
> that registry agreement.
> As a matter of policy, the BC believes that businesses should not be subject
> to agreements where the other party has the unilateral right to amend such an
> agreement. ICANN’s proposal in which the ICANN Board could unilaterally
> impose a change to registry agreements notwithstanding the objections of a
> majority of registry operators, the BC, or any other ICANN organization is an
> anathema to ICANN’s bottom-up policy making roots.
>
> Similarly, the RySG’s proposal, in which each individual registry has the
> ability to veto a proposed change, also is inconsistent with the efficient
> functioning and scalability of the New gTLD program. This issue requires a
> “balanced” approach that satisfies both parties.
> The BC analyzes the issue based on whether proposed changes are within the
> so-called “picket fence” – and subject to Consensus Policy – or not. All
> contractual changes should be made in a transparent manner with input from
> the community.
>
> For issues within the picket fence, there is an existing Policy Development
> Process that carries the power to change all registry and registrar
> agreements. As described in current and proposed registry contracts, the
> picket fence includes most conceivable ways that community and BC members
> would need to control registry practices:
>
> 1.2.1. issues for which uniform or coordinated resolution is reasonably
> necessary to facilitate interoperability, security and/or stability of the
> Internet or DNS;
>
> 1.2.2. functional and performance specifications for the provision of
> registry services;
>
> 1.2.3. Security and stability of the registry database for the TLD;
>
> 1.2.4. registry policies reasonably necessary to implement Consensus Policies
> relating to registry operations or registrars; or
>
> 1.2.5. resolution of disputes regarding the registration of domain names (as
> opposed to the use of such domain names).
>
> 1.3.1. principles for allocation of registered names in the TLD (e.g.,
> first-come/first-served, timely renewal, holding period after expiration);
>
> 1.3.2. prohibitions on warehousing of or speculation in domain names by
> registries or registrars;
>
> 1.3.3. reservation of registered names in the TLD that may not be registered
> initially or that may not be renewed due to reasons reasonably related to (i)
> avoidance of confusion among or misleading of users, (ii) intellectual
> property, or (iii) the technical management of the DNS or the Internet (e.g.,
> establishment of reservations of names from registration); and
>
> 1.3.4. maintenance of and access to accurate and up-to-date information
> concerning domain name registrations; and procedures to avoid disruptions of
> domain name registrations due to suspension or termination of operations by a
> registry operator or a registrar, including procedures for allocation of
> responsibility for serving registered domain names in a TLD affected by such
> a suspension or termination.
>
> Source:
> http://icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/draft-agreement-specs-clean-04oct09-en.pdf
>
> By way of example, a picket fence PDP was how the BC and other community
> members put a stop to domain tasting that was occurring by abuse of the
> add-grace period. While many felt that a 2-year PDP and implementation
> process took too long, this experience showed that the system works,
> generating a policy outcome that became part of all registrar and registry
> agreements.
>
> Therefore, ICANN shouldn’t have the ability to unilaterally change such
> agreements without community consent, and the BC does not see any need for a
> separate process for amendment on top of the current PDP process. The ICANN
> community is tasked with making policy; not the ICANN Board or staff. We
> have a process to make changes now. If that process needs improvement, let’s
> improve it. Giving ICANN the ability to unilaterally amend the Registry
> contract is not the answer.
> Certain other issues outside the picket fence also should not be subject to
> unilateral changes, such as pricing, ICANN fees, and other similar topics
> where neither party can unilaterally amend an agreement without consent of
> the other party to the contract.
>
> There are some issues outside the picket fence, however, where ICANN and/or
> the community should be able to amend registry agreements without the
> specific consent of every single registry operator, as long as there is a
> consensus of the community. These issues should include security and
> stability issues, enforcement tools, registrant protections, and promoting a
> stable marketplace, and should be enforceable against all registry operators.
> For example, compliance staff must have the tools to enforce the registry
> agreements against potential bad actor registries. One rogue registry should
> not be able to veto changes that the rest of the community supports. Similar
> changes to the Registrar Accreditation Agreement were recently adopted
> without each registrar being able to veto the changes.
>
> Even with such rogue issues, neither the ICANN staff nor the Board should be
> able to amend registry agreements without community involvement and input
> from the registry operators. All changes – regardless of the issue -- must
> be transparent and exhibit the appropriate level of accountability to the
> community.
>
> ICANN needs to strike a balance in the manner in which registry agreements
> are amended. In the BC’s view, neither the current ICANN proposal nor the
> RySG proposal succeeds in doing so yet.
>
>
>
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