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RE: [bc-gnso] Assessing the "Domain Name Exchange" service proposed by VeriSign
- To: "icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'bc - GNSO list'" <bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Assessing the "Domain Name Exchange" service proposed by VeriSign
- From: Susan Kawaguchi <skawaguchi@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:43:22 -0700
It would be good to get clarification on several issues from Verisign. Do you
think they would talk to the BC about their proposal?
Susan Kawaguchi
Domain Name Manager
Facebook Inc.
1601 S. California Avenue
Palo Alto, CA
Phone - 650 485-6064
Cell - 650 387 3904
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From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Mike Rodenbaugh
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:23 PM
To: 'bc - GNSO list'
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Assessing the "Domain Name Exchange" service proposed by
VeriSign
Ooops, my post was missing an important "NOT" in second sentence, now
inserted...
From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Mike Rodenbaugh
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 2:50 PM
To: 'bc - GNSO list'
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Assessing the "Domain Name Exchange" service proposed by
VeriSign
Thanks both Steve and Sarah for the thoughtful posts. I agree this proposal
needs further consideration and public comment, and should NOT be
'rubber-stamped' by ICANN, like most RSEP proposals. It certainly has the
potential to unravel a lot of the progress made with the AGP Limits policy.
Another mitigation step could be to limit the percentage of any registrar's
domains that can be exchanged, similar to the AGP Limits policy.
We could make a motion for the next GNSO Council meeting on 4/21, to see if the
Council would ask Staff to conduct further consideration. The deadline for
such a motion is 4/13. I suspect it would have broad support from the NCSG,
and probably none from the CSG, but it might still pass depending upon
attendance at the meeting, and in any event ought to serve the purpose.
Individual member and constituency comments should also be submitted to ICANN
directly. Do we have BC consensus at least on the following?
[DRAFT]
The BC requests that Staff make the preliminary determination, with respect to
Versign's RSEP proposal for "domain exchange" services in the .net TLD, that
this proposal requires further study because it could raise significant issues
with security and stability and/or competition. Specifically, the proposal may
permit resumption of commercial "domain tasting" activities which have been
curbed by the AGP Limits policy, and therefore appropriate limitations on the
proposed registry service must be considered.
Mike Rodenbaugh
RODENBAUGH LAW
tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087
http://rodenbaugh.com<http://rodenbaugh.com/>
From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Deutsch, Sarah B
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 2:19 PM
To: Steve DelBianco; bc - GNSO list
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Assessing the "Domain Name Exchange" service proposed by
VeriSign
Steve,
Thanks for giving all of us more background on the proposed Verisign service.
My view is that because this proposal could pass through very quickly with
little ICANN input and has very serious potential consequences for businesses
and brand owners, we should quickly reach out to ICANN staff and tell them that
there are enough concerns that the process must be slowed down and studied
carefully.
The concerns I've raised have nothing to do with someone registering generic
names. Whether we call it "tasting" or something else, the fact remains that
this service allows someone for the price of a single domain name, to register
at least 12 different domain names a year. So, if you spent $8 to register
100 domain names under the exchange service, you could wind up registering
nearly 10,000 different domain names. On its face, this seems to be a recipe
for mischief and abuse.
When we had full blown domain name tasting under the AGP for free, the number
of infringements skyrocketed, but even today, brand owners face thousands of
instances of new infringements because cybersquatters are still willing to pay
a relatively low registration fee for the high quality names that drive
traffic. The recent report on cybersquatting out of Harvard shows that even
vigilant companies like Verizon still face many hundreds of typosquatting
incidents -- all from infringers who are willing to pay a fee for our
trademarked names. The report estimates that the top 100,000 websites
containing cybersquatted domains collectively receive at least 68.2 million
daily visitors. If these cybersquatted sites were considered as a single
website, they would be ranked by Alexa as the 10th most popular website in the
world. So it is reasonable to be concerned that a service which allows one to
register multiple domain names for a single price will only add to this problem.
I appreciate that Verisign believes it has taken some steps to make their
service more "transparent," but I don't believe transparency is the same as
fixing your business model to prevent infringements in the first place. A few
questions, comments and ideas:
1) A "free" reporting service on exchanged names is better than no reporting
service -- but it appears that the burden, administrative costs and enforcement
costs shifts to business and brand holders, who on a daily or even hourly
basis, must check this reporting service for possible infringements. What will
Verisign do when the brand holder writes to them and demands they stop selling
the name? My guess is that they would not be accountable for taking this name
out of circulation and the trademark owner would be sending numerous cease and
desist letters, filing more UDRP actions and filing more lawsuits.
2) Your mention of the WHOWAS service does not say whether this will be
provided for free or at a cost. In any case, the same concerns about pushing
the burden on trademark owners remains. Also, what steps does Verisign intend
to take to ensure the accuracy of the information provided in its WHOIS, WHOAS
and its reporting service associated with this service? Will it permit
applicants to "exchange" names through a proxy service?
3) Will there be a cap on the number of domain names someone could register
under the exchange service?
If Verisign is serious about limiting harms to brand owners, why not:
1) Limit the service to generic names only? Why not allow trademark owners to
provide Verisign with a list of their registered trademarks that should not be
permitted to be sold under the exchange service and allow them to opt names out
of this service?
2) Why not build in protections for the trademark owner up front when offering
the service? For example, when an applicant searches for the availability of a
name, the trademarked names provided by owners who opt out would pop up with a
warning telling the applicant that the name is a trademark owned by a third
party, warning them about the penalties associated with cybersquatting and
requiring them to declare that they have a legal right to use such name.
3) Why not beef up requirements for accurate WHOIS contact information and
prohibit exhanging names through a proxy?
Obviously, the issues are all quite complicated as are the potential fixes, so
more reason that this proposal be slowed down and studied carefully with all
affected stakeholders.
Thanks,
Sarah
Sarah B. Deutsch
Vice President & Associate General Counsel
Verizon Communications
Phone: 703-351-3044
Fax: 703-351-3670
________________________________
From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve DelBianco
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:05 AM
To: bc - GNSO list
Subject: [bc-gnso] Assessing the "Domain Name Exchange" service proposed by
VeriSign
BC Members:
On April 5, VeriSign (operator of .com, .net, and .name) proposed a new
registry service called "Domain Name Exchange." VeriSign's proposal and QA& is
posted at http://www.icann.org/en/registries/rsep/verisign-dnex-05apr10-en.pdf
Here's how VeriSign describes the service:
Based on ongoing discussions with registrars who represent diverse business
models and market segments, VeriSign has developed the concept for the Domain
Name Exchange Service to allow a registrar to repurpose a domain name
registration that has significant time remaining until expiration. Today when
a registrant terminates a package of services from a registrar after, for
example, an introductory 1 or 3 month period, the registrar is forced to recoup
the investment in the associated domain via monetization or the secondary
market. The domain exchange will allow a registrar to offer another registrant
a package that sits on top of that same registration using a new domain.
The Domain Name Exchange Service is an optional service that is designed to
provide registrars and registrants with an effective and efficient way to
manage domain name registration terms for domain names that are no longer
needed.
For many website hosting service providers, the registration of a domain name
is a secondary service. For example, the European registrar
1and1 offers web hosting with "free domains included" ( http://1and1.eu ) in
order to attract new clients to establish their online presence. Domain
Exchange lets 1&1 re-use the registration if a client wants to drop the website
and domain after just a few months. Registrars would pay around 1.5x the cost
of a regular annual registration in order to get the Exchange option, and they
could exchange once per month. Perhaps there will be significant demand for
this service from registrars who have lots of turnover with hosting clients.
Domain Exchange is being proposed only for .net domains, but VeriSign may
propose it for .com at some point. And that's where several BC officers are
already raising concerns that Domain Exchange could be a new form of "domain
tasting" that would lead to even more cyber-squatting and typo-squatting.
"Domain tasting" is a loaded term in ICANN circles. "Tasting" is how domainers
test a domain name to learn whether type-in traffic generates enough
advertising revenue to cover costs of registering the domain. The names
typically tasted were generic words and phrases (like SpringCleaning.com or
SpringFashions.com) that some users might guess at by entering the URL (
instead of going thru a page-ranked search engine).
Domainers make money on these domain names by "parking" a page with ads for
related products and services.
The parked pages that result from tasted names are objectionable in the way
that highway billboards are objectionable, but there's nothing illegal about
monetizing domain traffic with advertising. Moreover, several BC members are
domainers who monetize traffic this way, and other BC members providing online
advertising services to support the trade.
But nothing infuriates BC members and Internet users more than tasting or
parking domains that involve trademarked terms or typographical variants
designed to deceive users. Cybersquatting and typosquatting could increase if
a new service makes it easier to discover domain names that mislead users into
thinking they have landed on a page belonging to a known business or
organization they intended to reach.
Domainers discovered they could taste traffic for 5 days for zero cost by using
the Add Grace Period (AGP) that has always been offered by registrars and
registries. That led to rampant tasting in domains like .com. The ICANN
community, incl many in the BC, pushed ICANN to end the practice of free
tasting thru abuse of the AGP privilege. Using the policy development process,
ICANN effectively eliminated free AGP tasting in 2009
(http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/agp-policy-17dec08-en.htm )
Question is, will a new Domain Exchange service increase the incidence of
trademark and typographical squatting? I asked my friends at VeriSign (a
NetChoice member) about this concern, and here's what I learned:
Domain Exchange is not going to replace the free and unchecked tasting that was
done with AGP before 2009. First, a domain 'taster' has to actually buy a
1-year registration to be able to use domain exchange at 11 monthly intervals.
That's cheaper than buying a dozen registrations, but its not free. Second, it
would take a year just to 'taste' a dozen names for ad traffic.
Still, VeriSign acknowledges that some parties may see Domain Exchange as a way
to "taste" and then register names that infringe on trademarks. So VeriSign is
offering additional IP protection tools described in their proposal, such as
limitations on exchanges, free reporting on exchanged names, and the WhoWas
service (a permanent record of historical Whois).
VeriSign is open to suggestions from the BC (and IPC) about other tools that
would minimize use of Domain Exchange for TM infringement or other illegal
purposes. They're also prepared to answer questions in a direct dialogue with
our members if that's easier and quicker than using the public comment process
described below.
So let's begin internal discussions on BC List, with an intent to send concerns
and questions to staff, to VeriSign, and eventually in ICANN public comments.
Finally, a word about the ICANN process for review and approval of new registry
services:
ICANN evaluates new registry services thru its Registry Service Evaluation
Process (RSEP). ICANN staff has 15-days to make a "preliminary determination"
whether this Registry Service requires further consideration by ICANN because
it could raise significant issues with Security & Stability or competition.
There's no official comment period during these 15 days, but BC members can
always explain concerns to staff. See RSEP at
http://www.icann.org/en/registries/rsep/rsep.html
If ICANN determines that the service might raise significant Stability or
Security issues, it goes to the Registry Services Technical Evaluation Panel
and simultaneously invites public comment on the proposal (2nd chance to
comment). This panel has 45 days to do a written report regarding the proposed
service effect on Security or Stability.
ICANN's Board then posts the report for public comment (3rd chance to comment),
and the Board has 30 days to reach a decision. "In the event the ICANN Board
reasonably determines that the proposed Registry Service creates a reasonable
risk of a meaningful adverse effect on Stability or Security, Registry Operator
will not offer the proposed Registry Service."
So there are 2 or 3 chances to comment over a period of 45 days (or 90 days if
the panel raises S&S concerns).
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