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Re: [bc-gnso] urgent update to all BC members -- regarding BC statement regardingBoard-GAC Scorecard issues
- To: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>, owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx, jarkko.ruuska@xxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] urgent update to all BC members -- regarding BC statement regardingBoard-GAC Scorecard issues
- From: warren65@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:11:50 +0000
I also oppose the limiting the pool concept. Such an action could just delay
this process even further.
Best,
Chuck Warren
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From: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sender: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:06:57
To: <jarkko.ruuska@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <tero.mustala@xxxxxxx>; <jon@xxxxxxxxxx>;
<psc@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
<owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>; <bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] urgent update to all BC members -- regarding BC
statement regardingBoard-GAC Scorecard issues
i'd like to chime in opposing the limit-the-pool idea as well -- the word i'm
getting is that the applicant pool is melting away as this long process
continues to stretch out.
mikey
On Mar 14, 2011, at 8:03 AM, <jarkko.ruuska@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I would also advise against limiting the amount of applications in this
> round. The rules for that would be near impossible to define (in any
> reasonable timeframe) and there would always be room for gaming.
>
> I see that the new gTLD process is going to be self-limiting. There won’t be
> any mass delegations to the root as all the applications and applicants will
> progress with different speeds.
>
> Some of them will get stuck in the extended evaluation phase. Some them will
> be quickly approved by ICANN but will then get stuck in the Registry
> agreement negotiations with ICANN. Of those who clear the negotiations a
> portion will get stuck in the pre-delegation testing phase. And finally many
> of those new gTLDS that will actually get through all the stages are not
> immediately delegated because of business of other reasons. I hope that this
> example illustrates how many bottlenecks there can be in this process, let
> alone the ones that are currently unknown.
>
> BR,
>
> -jr
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> ext Mike Rodenbaugh
> Sent: 13. maaliskuuta 2011 21:39
> To: 'Mustala, Tero (NSN - FI/Espoo)'; 'ext Jon Nevett'; 'Phil Corwin'
> Cc: randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx;
> owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx; bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] urgent update to all BC members -- regarding BC
> statement regardingBoard-GAC Scorecard issues
>
> I agree with Jon and Tero. The idea of limiting the number of TLDs in this
> next round has been raised repeatedly since 2007, and always rejected because
> there is no equitable way to determine who should go next. To try to
> determine such a way forward would take many months if not years of further
> community debate. Also, the root scaling studies have indicated there is no
> technical reason to limit the number of new TLDs. It is time to resolve the
> policy issues that have been discussed since 2007, rather than create huge
> new issues such as how to prioritize new gTLD applications.
>
> Mike Rodenbaugh
> RODENBAUGH LAW
> tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087
> http://rodenbaugh.com
>
> From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Mustala, Tero (NSN - FI/Espoo)
> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:19 PM
> To: ext Jon Nevett; Phil Corwin
> Cc: randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx;
> owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx; bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] urgent update to all BC members -- regarding BC
> statement regardingBoard-GAC Scorecard issues
>
> I tend to agree with Jon. Also if you read the GAC communique, you might see
> that the governments are quite definite with some of their concerns.
>
> regards
>
> Tero
>
> Tero Mustala
> Principal Consultant,
> CTO/Industry Environment
> Nokia Siemens Networks
> tero.mustala@xxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> ext Jon Nevett
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:06 AM
> To: Phil Corwin
> Cc: randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx;
> owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx; bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] urgent update to all BC members -- regarding BC
> statement regardingBoard-GAC Scorecard issues
>
> Probably not a surprise, but I do not support (2) -- how would you decide
> which ones to move forward on? For example, why RPMs in generics would be
> more important than in .nyc? Do you do it randomly? Not sure the equity in
> that -- and would it be a problematic lottery?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2011, at 7:53 PM, Phil Corwin wrote:
>
>
> Good suggestions, Ron. I'm in general support.
>
> From: Ron Andruff [mailto:randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 06:53 PM
> To: Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>; owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx
> <owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>; bc - GNSO list <bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] urgent update to all BC members -- regarding BC
> statement regardingBoard-GAC Scorecard issues
>
> Marilyn and all,
>
> In discussions with Peter DT, he has made it clear that Monday's comment
> session is critical to coming to closure with the GAC. It is clear that GAC
> members must take something home for their ministers, so we need to give some
> serious thought to what those things might be. Two ideas that come to mind
> are (1) recommend that all community based applications be allowed to apply
> simultaneously for their IDN equivalents or a small fee per string, which
> would lead to each nation being able to use non-English / non-ASCII scripts
> (and therein a "win"); and (2) suggest that a way to get past the impass of
> too many "2"s in the scorecard would be to go forward with a limited round to
> start so that we can all see if the current AGB (as suggested by the Board)
> is functional or needs the modifications currently revcommended by the GAC.
> In any case, according to PDT, we cannot leave SFO without resolution. IMHO,
> that must be the message we share with all we meet in the meeting rooms and
> halls....
>
> Kind regards,
>
> RA
>________________________________________
> Ron Andruff
> RNA Partners, Inc.
> randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.rnapartners.com
> From: Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sender: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:22:51 -0400
> To: bc - GNSO list<bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bc-gnso] urgent update to all BC members -- regarding BC statement
> regarding Board-GAC Scorecard issues
>
> During a meeting with Kurt Pritz, V.President, ICANN with the GNSO and the
> GNSO Council, he announced that there is agreement to have short statements
> from the Chairs of the SOs/ACs and SGs at the beginning of the session on
> Monday that reviews the Board and GAC Scorecard Document [showing 1a, 1b, and
> 2].
>
> I am going to convene a process to draft a statement from the BC [we don't
> have a CSG chair/and at this point, the position I have given to the chairs
> within the CSG is that we will each make a statement for our Constituency. I
> intend that we will have a statement, since we have a lot at risk to ensure
> that the input of the BC's Constituency members are reflected in the
> statement.
>
> Zahid and John are going to have a heavy work load on this -- they have
> Council to 'guide' [and have done a great job already on that in the
> discussions so far. ]
>
> I will be conferring with excomm on how to do a statement and clear it with
> you all/stay closely tuned.
>
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