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[bc-gnso] GNSO Councilor statements on IRTP-B resolution

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  • Subject: [bc-gnso] GNSO Councilor statements on IRTP-B resolution
  • From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:32:53 +0000

Council unanimously passed a resolution on IRTB  (including deferred 
consideration of two items).   Congratulations to BC members Mikey O'Connor, 
Chris Chaplow, and Berry Cobb.

Zahid Jamil and others also recognized importance of respecting the product and 
process of Working Groups:

JEFF NEUMAN:   I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE REQUEST OF ICANN STAFF TO FOLLOW SOME 
OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS SO WHEN THEY'RE DRAFTING THEIR FINAL REPORT THAT GOES 
TO THE BOARD, IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL OR, MORE IMPORTANTLY, 
THE ACTUAL WORKING GROUP COULD SEE SO THEY CAN BLESS THAT BEFORE YOUR REPORT -- 
YOUR STAFF REPORT GOES TO THE BOARD. IN THE INTEREST OF OPENNESS AND 
TRANSPARENCY, IF YOU COULD ACTUALLY RUN IT BY THAT GROUP.
AGAIN, THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION OF THAT GROUP, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE, TO THE 
EXTENT WE CAN DO IT, THAT FOLLOWED NOW SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING IF THAT 
COULD HAPPEN. I. THANKS, JEFF. ZAHID.

>>ZAHID JAMIL: THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT IT IS 
>>FANTASTIC THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOT A CONSENSUS POLICY HERE AND EVERYBODY 
>>IS BEING SUPPORTING IT, INCLUDING US IN THE BUSINESS CONSTITUENCY. HOWEVER I 
>>HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGED AND URGED BY CERTAIN MEMBERS OF MY CONSTITUENCY WHO WERE 
>>ACTUALLY ACTIVELY PART OF THE WORKING GROUP HERE TO MAKE SOME SORT OF 
>>STATEMENT WITH REGARD TO THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE NOW FACED WITH THE NEW 
>>STRUCTURE OF THE GNSO.
THE EVENTS OR CERTAIN DISCUSSIONS ONLINE SORT OF UNDERSCORE THE IMPORTANCE OF 
ENSURING THAT IN THIS NEW MODEL, CONSTITUENCIES AND STAKEHOLDER GROUPS KEEP A 
VERY CAREFUL HAWKEYE, IF NECESSARY, ON WORK AND DEVELOPMENTS IN THE DRAFTING 
TEAMS AND THE WORKING GROUPS, SO THAT WE CAN AVOID SITUATIONS WHERE POLICY 
MANAGERS MAY HAVE TO, AT TIMES, TINKER OR CHANGE CERTAIN DECISIONS OR TAKE 
DECISIONS CONTRARY, SOMETIMES, TO WHAT THE WORKING GROUPS COME UP WITH, 
ESPECIALLY IN THIS BOTTOM-UP POLICY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, SUCH AS WE'VE SEEN IN 
THE RAA AND NOW THE POSSIBLY -- EVEN THOUGH I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'VE JUST 
DEFERRED IT -- IN THIS RESOLUTION. AND IF WE DON'T, WE RUN THE RISK OF 
DISINCENTIVIZING VOLUNTEERS WHO SPEND HEARSE OF HOURS OF THEIR PRECIOUS TIME 
WORKING ON THESE EFFORTS, SO I'M GLAD THAT IN THIS RESOLUTION WHAT WE'VE DONE 
IS AT LEAST JUST DEFERRED SOME OF THE -- COUPLE OF MOTIONS THERE AND I JUST 
WANTED TO AGAIN SAY THAT IT IS FANTASTIC TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HARD WORK 
OF THE WORKING GROUP HAS COME TO FRUITION, BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO SORT OF AGAIN 
UNDERSCORE THE IMPORTANCE OF US KEEPING A CAREFUL EYE ON THE WORK TEAM'S WORK.

>>STÉPHANE VAN GELDER: THANKS, ZAHID. I DON'T WANT TO SAY TOO MUCH, BUT I JUST 
>>-- I DO -- I MEAN, THE MENTAL IS VERY CLEAR. IN THIS INSTANCE, I ACTUALLY 
>>FAIL TO SEE WHY THE MESSAGE IS NECESSARY. I THINK AS TIM EXPLAINED EARLIER, 
>>THERE HAS BEEN NO ATTEMPT BY THE COUNCIL TO CHANGE ANYTHING THAT HAS COME UP 
>>FROM THE WORKING GROUP. IT'S JUST WE'RE GIVING OURSELVES TIME TO CONSIDER 
>>DIFFERENT THINGS IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
BUT I KNOW JEFF WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS, AND THEN I'LL PASS IT BACK TO YOU.

>>JEFF NEUMAN: YEAH. I MEAN, I -- YOU'VE PRETTY MUCH SAID A LOT OF WHAT I WAS 
>>GOING TO SAY IN THIS INSTANCE I DON'T THINK WE'VE REWRITTEN ANYTHING, AND I 
>>THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT THE GNSO COUNCIL DISAGREES 
>>WITH, PROBABLY IT SHOULD GO BACK TO THE WORKING GROUP AND WE SHOULD NOT BE 
>>SUBSTITUTING OUR OWN OPINION FOR THAT OF THE WORKING GROUP THAT'S PUT IN A 
>>LOT OF EXTRA TIME ON THESE ISSUES.
AND SO I GUESS I AGREE WITH THAT SENTIMENT AND I THINK IN THIS CASE, I THINK 
WE'VE DONE THE RIGHT THING.

>>ZAHID JAMIL: THANKS. AS I SAID IN THE CLOSING AND ALSO IN THE BEGINNING, I'M 
>>GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE WAS A DEFERRAL HERE, BECAUSE THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF 
>>DOING SOMETHING OTHERWISE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I POINT OUT THAT THE WORKING 
>>GROUP, SOME OF THE MEMBERS WERE FEELING A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT CERTAIN 
>>THINGS THAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED, SO THAT IS SOME OF THE CONCERN. I WANTED TO 
>>ALLAY SOME OF THOSE FEARS AND I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS DONE THE RIGHT THING BY 
>>DEFERRING AND NOT CHANGING ANYTHING THERE, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO JUST KEEP AN 
>>EYE ON THE FACT THAT SOMETIMES WHEN THINGS ARE BEING DONE AT THE WORKING 
>>GROUP LEVEL, BY THE TIME THEY GET TO THE COUNCIL, CONSTITUENCIES MAY HAVE, 
>>YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES NOT REALIZED WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE, AND IT'S IMPORTANT 
>>TO KEEP AN EYE ON IT AND JUST THAT WAS THE STATEMENT I WANTED TO MAKE. BUT I 
>>AGREE THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TAKEN THE RIGHT DECISION BY NOT CHANGING THE 
>>BOTTOM-UP PROCESS AND INSTEAD JUST SAID OKAY, WE'RE DEFERRING THIS. THANKS.

>>TIM RUIZ: YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WHAT WE'VE DONE TODAY WAS TO 
>>UNANIMOUSLY ACCEPT EVERY CONSENSUS POLICY RECOMMENDATION MADE BY THIS WORKING 
>>GROUP, SO I DON'T WANT TO -- DON'T WANT US TO -- THAT TO BE OVERSHADOWED AND 
>>THE WORKING GROUP SHOULD BE, AGAIN, APPLAUDED AND THANKED FOR THEIR HARD WORK 
>>AND THE WAY THAT THEY'VE PROCEEDED, SO THAT WE HAVE NO QUESTION ABOUT THE 
>>CONSENSUS THAT EXISTED IN THESE POLICIES.

>>JONATHAN ROBINSON: YEAH. AND I HOPE THIS IS -- THIS IS AT THE RISK OF 
>>OVER-EGGING THE SITUATION BUT TO ME WHAT THIS UNDERLINES AND EMPHASIZES THE 
>>PARTNERS OF THE WORKING GROUPS AND SENDS A VERY CLEAR MESSAGE OUT THAT IF YOU 
>>WANT TO INFLUENCE THE POLICY, GET INVOLVED IN THE WORKING GROUPS AND DO THAT 
>>AND WE WILL TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY.



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