RE: [bc-gnso] TLD Universal Acceptance

[Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

excellent summary! 


From: chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; james.f.baskin@xxxxxxxxxxx; bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] TLD Universal Acceptance
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:23:09 +0100




Thanks Ron and Jim  Here are my quick notes from the Universal Acceptance of 
TLD  presentation IssuesWebsite forms doing improper email domain checks. 
Google adwords not accepting .asia etcMS Mobile IE not supporting IDN. Hosting 
control panels not support arabic IDN'sSocial network Twitter and facebook no 
support of IDNBrowser redirects to search mode if does not recognise TLDPoor 
code on developer website in respect to this often top in Google."Email this 
article" from a website not working. Suggested Solutions ICANN coordingate  
activity.ICANN approach big software developers eg MSICANN make presentations 
at application layer events or provide materialUse new gTLD publicity materials 
to raise awareness. Info more accessible on ICANN websiteReport non support or 
non acceptance. Value to business of accepting new TLD's and IDNPromote via 
GACCompetitions etc to promoteRegistry and Registrar software should support 
IDN.(ICANN can insist on this)Funding for outreach for this issue, and 
materialsRepository of info on the subjectIf product it does not work - send it 
back. Make marketing people aware or problem not just technical people. I will 
work BC comment on JIG initial report on Universal Acceptance of IDN which is a 
subset of the general isse. Key takeaway  for BCThere is a value to business of 
the acceptance of new TLD's and IDN.  All issues mentioned above can result in 
lost business.     Chris Chaplow
Managing Director
Andalucia.com S.L.
Avenida del Carmen 9
Ed. Puertosol, Puerto Deportivo
1ª Planta, Oficina 30
Estepona, 29680
Malaga, Spain
Tel: + (34) 952 897 865
Fax: + (34) 952 897 874
E-mail: chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Web: www.andalucia.com
Information about Andalucia, Spain. De: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Ron Andruff
Enviado el: miércoles, 14 de marzo de 2012 20:36
Para: 'Baskin, James F (Jim)'; 'Chris Chaplow'; bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx
Asunto: RE: [bc-gnso] TLD Universal Acceptance Universal acceptance is not just 
the ability to resolve DNS queries TO individual TLDs with more than three 
letter TLDs, but it also implies ability to send an email with a TLD address 
with more than three letters.  Universal Acceptance of TLDs on the ICANN 
website (http://www.icann.org/en/news/in-focus/tld-acceptance) states “Most 
software should not need to test whether a domain name is valid. The act of 
connecting to a domain name (in the case of a URL, for example), or sending an 
email (in the case of an email address) will automatically provide mechanisms 
of informing if the domain name is valid or not. “ The issue is email address 
with a .NAME TLD is being rejected by many entities.  That is a universal 
acceptance issue, in my view. Hope this helps, RA Ronald N. AndruffPresident 
RNA Partners, Inc.220 Fifth AvenueNew York, New York 10001+ 1 212 481 2820 ext. 
11 From: Baskin, James F (Jim) [mailto:james.f.baskin@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:31 PM
To: Ron Andruff; 'Chris Chaplow'; bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] TLD Universal Acceptance Ron, I appears to me that your 
example of .NAME SLDs not being universally accepted as IDs for e-commerce 
sites is not directly related to the “Universal Acceptance” topic.   Universal 
acceptance is the ability to resolve DNS queries TO individual TLDs, e.g., the 
early (or even ongoing) problems in reaching .TRAVEL because it is more than 
three characters or not in some software lists of valid TLDs.  Being able to 
resolve the IP address of a .NAME URI is not related to the unwillingness of 
Apple or BBC to accept a .NAME registration as valid user identification 
credentials. Jim From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Ron Andruff
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:34 AM
To: 'Chris Chaplow'; bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] TLD Universal Acceptance Chris, Regarding the session on 
Universal Acceptance, my business partner has had some unhappy experiences with 
.NAME – after all these years! .NAME is not accepted by Apple for an ID (for 
iTunes, or any Apple device), British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC), Sears, 
New York Department of Education, among many others. Hope this helps. Kind 
regards, RA  Ronald N. AndruffPresident RNA Partners, Inc.220 Fifth AvenueNew 
York, New York 10001+ 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11 From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Chaplow
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 5:45 PM
To: bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bc-gnso] TLD Universal Acceptance BC members, As mentioned  in the 
meeting just now  there is a panel tomorrow (and a public forum closing on the 
23rd March).  The panel is at 12.30 on Wednesday in “La Paz A”  entitled: TLD 
Universal Acceptance   
 Universal Acceptance of All Domains has been an on-going effort driven by 
ICANN. In the past this project's focus was on raising awareness that software 
vendors and other parties needed to make sure they accepted domains from new 
gTLDs that were introduced in previous rounds in 2000 and 2004. This scope has 
since expanded to include IDN ccTLDs, and since the ICANN Board of Directors 
approved the new gTLD program last year, many more new TLDs are expected to be 
added to the root zone in the near future. The main goal of this project is to 
raise awareness in the community and discuss the best ways of addressing these 
issues. In order to help the project achieve these goals, we are seeking to 
engage with the community on the best ways to identify and address the issues 
involved. We are inviting experts, like yourself, to take part in this active 
discussion so you can share your opinion on what you think could and should be 
done in order to promote further universal acceptance of all domains. 
 
We would like to allow invitees to share their experiences and opinions, as 
well as answer the following questions: 
 
1. What are the existing issues with acceptance of domains registered within 
TLDs?
 
2. Who should be addressing the existing issues, for example, registry 
operators, registrars, ISPs, software vendors, software developers, others?   
 
3. How can ICANN promote universal acceptance of all domains effectively?  The 
public comment forum that   Initial Report on Universal Acceptance of IDN 
TLDshttp://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/universal-acceptance-idn-tlds-06jan12-en.htmand
 the initial report found 
herehttp://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/jig-idn-tld-acceptance-initial-report-06jan12-en.pdf
  Any help or thoughts on TLD Universal Acceptance   for tomorrow  gratefully 
received. Best     Chris Chaplow
Managing Director
Andalucia.com S.L.
Avenida del Carmen 9
Ed. Puertosol, Puerto Deportivo
1ª Planta, Oficina 30
Estepona, 29680
Malaga, Spain
Tel: + (34) 952 897 865
Fax: + (34) 952 897 874
E-mail: chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Web: www.andalucia.com
Information about Andalucia, Spain.