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RE: [bc-gnso] Important to hear from members -- Reconfiguring the URS?
- To: Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>, John Berard <johnberard@xxxxxxx>, Steve Delbianco <sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Chris at Andalucia <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, bc - GNSO list <bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Important to hear from members -- Reconfiguring the URS?
- From: Phil Corwin <psc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 14:41:04 +0000
In response to John's inquiry - I'm not the one characterizing this as a policy
matter, I am the one reporting that ICANN has stated it will develop "effective
and feasible policy...rules" for post-delegation RPMs, and that it intends to
"reconfigure" (as in revisit and alter) the URS.
The relevant provisions in the draft budget are:
Rights Protection Mechanisms. Implementation of additional post-delegation
rights protection mechanisms will take place. These efforts include work with
the community to develop effective and feasible policy and administrative
rules, and the engagement of one or more Uniform Rapid Suspension (URS)
providers.
...and...
Uniform Rapid Suspension (URS) - $175K
At present there is a significant gap between the features specified for the
URS procedure and the desired cost. In order to bridge this gap we will: hold
two summit sessions to reconfigure the URS to arrive at a lower cost model (one
session in FY12 budget and another in this FY13 plan), conduct a process to
develop and finalize URS Model in consultation with current UDRP providers and
community members; and conduct RFP based on URS Model and select URS providers.
The goal is have a URS program in place and providers contracted and onboard by
June 2013.
The first reference characterizes this as a process to develop policy rules,
and differentiates that from administrative rules (the latter falling within
the implementation category).
The second reference characterizes their goal as reconfiguring URS to meet the
promised price point, and to put out a Request for Proposals (RFP) from
prospective providers based on that newly reconfigured RFP model, not on the
current model.
Their intent clearly goes beyond mere implementation of what is in the
Guidebook now - in fact, they explicitly state that there is a "gap" between
the features of the URS as it now stands and the low filing fee that was
promised. (Those 'features' are fairly fundamental, so it's not clear to me how
much they can be tinkered with.)
I also want to point out that what's in the Budget is very different from the
responses Kurt gave to questions I raised about URS implementation at the last
two ICANN meetings. (I have taken it as a given that URS will, in fact must, be
in place around the time that the first new gTLDs get beyond sunrise sales and
open domain purchases to the general public - and my goal in raising questions
has been to assure that sufficient time and thought is afforded to URS
implementation so that it is a credible and effective mechanism that affords
adequate due process to both parties. Also, in an aside, if ICANN fails to meet
its "goal" of having the program and providers in place by June 2013 that could
negatively impact the timing of new gTLD launches.)
In Dakar Kurt conceded that arbitration providers like WIPO and NAF had
informed ICANN that they would not bid on any URS RFP because the pricing would
not accommodate the fees they pay to qualified experts. He also stated that an
Implementation Advisory Group (IAG) would be established for URS, just like the
one that was already up and running for the Trademark Clearinghouse, within a
month - that obviously never happened.
In San Jose he stated that an RFP would be issued within a month to solicit URS
providers. That statement has now been negated by the Budget document, which
indicates that the RFP is many, many months away, after the two summits have
been held and there is further consultation with current UDRP providers and the
community, and will only be issued after the URS has been reconfigured into a
significantly revised model. It is unclear from this statement whether the
entire ICANN community will be able to participate in those Summits or whether
they will be restricted to a narrower group of participants.
Adding all that up, I think it's pretty clear that what is intended for URS is
not mere implementation but substantive recasting that falls within the policy
category.
Final policy thought: I think it is axiomatic that URS must be narrowed if
achieving the promised $300-500 price point is ICANN's top priority and is to
be realized (although I am skeptical that can be met in any circumstances,
given what expert trademark attorneys charge for their time - even a "slam
dunk" case requires some time to research and affirm the complainant's rights,
evaluate any registrant response, and prepare a report on the decision). The
filing fee for a single domain, single panelist UDRP is about $1300; if the URS
were to be "reconfigured" (as some want, but ICA opposes) to lower the
complainant's burden of proof to the same as that for UDRP then the
consideration a case must be afforded by the expert increases because it
contemplates cases that are more shades of grey than black and white - so that
is incompatible with pricing it at less than one-half or even less than
one-quarter of the current UDRP filing fee. The promised fee range does not pay
for even one hour of an expert's time - and the arbitration provider must add
on their own administrative costs.
Final process thought: In a time of continuing economic stress holding these
URS "summits" on a date and at a location other than in conjunction with the
Prague and subsequent full ICANN meetings imposes an economic burden that will
likely prevent many who might wish to participate from doing so (assuming they
are allowed to, as it's not clear that the full community will be invited or
welcome). I assume they will provide an opportunity for remote participation,
but that's never as informative or effective.
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
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From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Marilyn Cade
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 9:26 AM
To: John Berard; Steve Delbianco; Chris at Andalucia; Elisa Cooper; bc - GNSO
list
Cc: Zahid Jamil
Subject: [bc-gnso] Important to hear from members -- Reconfiguring the URS?
Thanks, John, the discussion about URS needs to include the full BC.
Many members have concerns, and I will note that that in the IRT last approach,
some BC members were excluded from participation, in favor of others in the
community, so we were not balanced in our BC participants. That was a serious
challenge within the BC.
Whether a URS; WHAT URS, and HOW URS is a serious topic to more than a few BC
members.
As to whether it is implementation/ and how that discussion progresses, versus
if it is policy, is not clear, right now.
What was the policy recommendation that created it?
Should that policy recommendation be revised?
Is this a change in how to implement a policy recommendation or a proposal to
change/modify a policy recommendation?
Finally, Summit? What is that? What are the parameters? Did the
SO/AC/SG/Constituencies support such a budget proposal, and how and who would
be funded to participate?
The IPC may love this; the BC and ISPCP need to study it.
As to what is 'returned' to Council to provide policy advice on, this is a
seriously challenging area for us, I fully agree.
We do want to hear from our broader membership on first this particular issue,
and then we will talk further in the BC, probably in Prague, on 'what is policy
and what is implementation'. I think that we all need to develop clarity on
that for future.
Whether the BC would take up a further policy clarity discussion on that latter
topic would then come from Steve after the BC members offer views.
Short term: My view on this for now: I want to see a staff discussion doc that
explains the problems. Curtailing the URS and making it less useful doesn't
excite me. paying a bit more an having useful option -- willing to discuss and
understand. ICANN staff seem headed in a direction against that. Personal view:
pay more/have a viable option. IF not, then no use, so don't proceed with URS.
PERSONAL views only in that view. Discussion from informed members critical for
next 36 hours.
Marilyn Cade, BC Chair
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Subject: Fwd: [council] Reconfiguring the URS?
From: johnberard@xxxxxxx<mailto:johnberard@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 16:09:38 -0400
CC: zahid@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:zahid@xxxxxxxxx>
To: marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
elisa.cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:elisa.cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Do we agree with Phil that this is a policy matter? My instinct is to say it
is not, but...
Berard
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From: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: May 3, 2012 2:09:09 PM EDT
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Subject: [council] Reconfiguring the URS?
All,
Thanks to Phil Corwin for catching this, but buried in the new budget document
(http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/op-budget-fy13-01may12-en.htm)
just put out for comment is a note on "reconfiguring" the URS. Excerpt
provided below. I guess they could not find any URS providers that could do
it for the costs that they had projected, so ICANN is holding 2 summits to work
on a new model. My question for the Council, is whether this is really a
policy issue that should be referred back to the GNSO Community as opposed to
having ICANN on its own resolving after holding 2 summits. Given the
controversy around this over the past few years, any tweaks to the URS should
probably go back to the community in my opinion.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Uniform Rapid Suspension (URS) - $175K
At present there is a significant gap between the features specified for the
URS procedure and the desired cost. In order to bridge this gap we will: hold
two summit sessions to reconfigure the URS to arrive at a lower cost model (one
session in FY12 budget and another in this FY13 plan), conduct a process to
develop and finalize URS Model in consultation with current UDRP providers and
community members; and conduct RFP based on URS Model and select URS providers.
The goal is have a URS program in place and providers contracted and onboard by
June 2013.
Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling, VA 20166
Office: +1.571.434.5772 Mobile: +1.202.549.5079 Fax: +1.703.738.7965 /
jeff.neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jeff.neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx> /
www.neustar.biz<http://www.neustar.biz/>
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