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Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois)

  • To: "J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois)
  • From: stephvg@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 20:50:24 +0200

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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I have added 
to J Scott's latest redraft a bit at the end about the possibility of extending 
this work to the cc space.<div><br></div><div>The wording is not perfect IMO, 
but hopefully the intent is 
clear.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div></div></body></html>

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<br><div><div>Le 5 août 2013 à 18:58, "J. Scott Evans" &lt;<a 
href="mailto:jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx";>jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; a écrit 
:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div 
style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: garamond, 'new york', 
times, serif; font-size: 14pt; "><div><span>Bill and team:</span></div><div 
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"><span><br></span></div><div style="font-size: 19px; font-family: garamond, 
'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; 
"><span>I have re-reviewed the draft with Bill's suggested revisions. &nbsp;I 
have attached a redline showing my thoughts on top of Bill's suggested 
edits.</span></div><div style="font-size: 19px; font-family: garamond, 'new 
york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; 
"><span><br></span></div><div style="font-size: 19px; font-family: garamond, 
'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; 
"><span>J. Scott</span></div><div></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><font 
style="color: rgb(96, 0, 191); font-weight: bold; font-family: tahoma, times, 
serif; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4" face="garamond, 'new york', 
times, serif">j. scott evans - &nbsp;head of global brand, domains &amp; 
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12pt; "> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">  <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span 
style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "Smith, Bill" &lt;<a 
href="mailto:bill.smith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>bill.smith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br> 
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "<a 
href="mailto:stephvg@xxxxxxxxx";>stephvg@xxxxxxxxx</a>" &lt;<a 
href="mailto:stephvg@xxxxxxxxx";>stephvg@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; <br><b><span 
style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Steve DelBianco &lt;<a 
href="mailto:sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;; "<a 
href="mailto:bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx";>bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx</a> list" &lt;<a 
href="mailto:bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx";>bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; <br> <b><span 
style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 5, 2013 9:12 AM<br> 
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [bc-gnso] FOR 
REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( 
new Whois)<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div 
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word;">+1
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<div>Attached is a marked up version of the document. I have attempted to 
replace web and website with Internet and service (generally) and hope that my 
changes read properly. I believe it important to make the distinction between 
the web and Internet since
 the ARDS is used for much more than the web.</div>
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<div>I also included some comments and additions that I believe are necessary 
to include. In particular, I disagree with the assertion that there is no 
foundation for the belief that the scale of the ARDS make it vulnerable. 
Internet entities are vulnerable
 regardless of size but as they grow, they become increasingly attractive 
targets. ARDS will be attractive - or the Registrar community has been 
disingenuous about the scale of SPAM, customer loss, etc. that results from 
harvesting information via WHOIS.</div>
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<div>I have also added text related to Gated Access and concerns related to 
data aggregation and operation of such a critical resource necessarily 
dependent on PII of security professionals. These individuals face very real 
risks given the work they do, those
 they "oppose", and the penalties imposed for crimes they uncover.</div>
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<div>I hope we will consider the changes I have proposed.</div>
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<div>On Aug 3, 2013, at 3:51 PM, <a rel="nofollow" 
ymailto="mailto:stephvg@xxxxxxxxx"; target="_blank" 
href="mailto:stephvg@xxxxxxxxx";>stephvg@xxxxxxxxx</a> wrote:</div>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word;">Thank you Steve, Laura, Susan, J Scott and 
Elisa for a well drafted document that I believe is perfectly inline with 
business users interests as defined by our charter.
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<div>If I might make a suggestion, even though it's out of scope of the EWG's 
work, I would love to see something in our opening comments about the fact that 
if the RDS model is adopted (or another unified model for managing gTLD 
registration data), it would
 be extremely beneficial for Internet users worldwide if ccTLD registries were 
also willing to work towards the adoption of the same, single-format, 
model.</div>
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<div>I think it's useful for commentors to the EWG's draft report to make this 
point, even though ccTLD managers abide by their own national laws and ways of 
doing things, because we all have a lot to gain from a more effective and more 
uniform registration
 data database.</div>
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<div>Apart from that suggestion, I have no other comments. The draft seems spot 
on to me and is supported by SVG Consulting Ltd.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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<div>Le 3 août 2013 à 17:53, Steve DelBianco &lt;<a rel="nofollow" 
ymailto="mailto:sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; target="_blank" 
href="mailto:sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; a écrit 
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<div style="font-size:16px;">It's time for the BC to comment on the<span 
class="yiv8695404229x_Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;">&nbsp;draft 
model for Next Generation gTLD Directory Services.&nbsp;</span></div>
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<div style="font-size:16px;"><span class="yiv8695404229x_Apple-style-span" 
style="font-size:medium;">The Expert Working Group (EWG) published its draft 
report
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" 
href="https://www.icann.org/en/groups/other/gtld-directory-services/initial-report-24jun13-en.pdf";>
here</a>.&nbsp;</span></div>
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class="yiv8695404229x_Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 
medium; "><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" 
href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/atrt2-02apr13-en.htm";></a><a 
rel="nofollow" target="_blank" 
href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/thick-whois-initial-21jun13-en.htm";></a><a
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href="http://www.icann.org/en/groups/other/gtld-directory-services/share-24jun13-en.htm";>here</a>&nbsp;and
 the EWG Wiki page is <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" 
href="https://community.icann.org/display/WG/Explore+the+Draft+Next+Generation+gTLD+Directory+Services+Model";>
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sans-serif; ">Laura Covington prepared the attached draft of BC comments, with 
help from Susan Kawaguchi, J Scott Evans, and Elisa Cooper.</span></div>
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