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RE: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW: BC comment on Status Update from expert working group on gTLD Directory Services

  • To: svg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Steve DelBianco" <sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW: BC comment on Status Update from expert working group on gTLD Directory Services
  • From: "Jimson Olufuye" <jolufuye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:27:32 -0700

<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000066; 
font-size:10pt;"><div>Thanks for the feedback 
Stephane.</div><div><br></div><div>Item 6 of the draft BC comment covers your 
concern with regard to compliance with local privacy law. Would you want to 
strengthen the statement in view of the gaps with the 
RAA?</div><div><br></div><div>I also share your view on the need for some 
congruence in policy for gTLD and ccTLD but I guess that might be an addendum 
to our BC comment on the EWG status report. What do you 
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Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW: BC comment on Status Update from<br>
expert working group on gTLD Directory Services<br>
From: Stephane Van Gelder Consulting &lt;<a 
Date: Tue, February 18, 2014 12:34 pm<br>
To: Steve DelBianco &lt;<a 
Cc: bc - GNSO list &lt;<a 
<div dir="ltr">Thanks to Steve and the drafters for all this 
work.<div><br></div><div style="">I am speaking from memory on the EWG's 
report, as I have not had time ro re-read it, so apologies if these have 
already been raised. However, I do think there are some points the BC should 
consider:</div> <div style=""><br></div><div style="">Any contractual 
obligation placed on any part of the domain name supply chain (be it 
registries, registrars or registrants) MUST NOT&nbsp;contravene&nbsp;local law. 
This is especially true for data privacy issues, which are a major point of 
focus in Europe for example. The recent debates over the latest RAA (as a 
reminder, some European registrars are finding themselves unable to sign the 
RAA, and therefore unable to sell new gTLDs which pust them at a competitive 
disadvantage, because it goes against their local privacy laws:&nbsp;<a 
 show that any WHOIS work must also take these obligations into account. I am 
worried that the EWG does not seem to have taken more than a passing glance at 
ccTLD WHOIS obligations such as those placed on the French registry by the 
French national data privacy agency (CNIL). Looking at this more closely would 
highlight the need for opt-out clauses for those who'se national laws would 
prevent them enacting any EWG recommendations as-is.</div> <div 
style=""><br></div><div style="">In short, I think our message here to ICANN 
should also be: learn from the current RAA mistakes!</div><div 
style=""><br></div><div style="">Another point I have made before is that I 
believe as representatives of businesses worldwide, we should continually nudge 
for this work to encompass ccTLD WHOIS as well. We have all heard before the 
many reasons why the EWG should not be doing so, but as businesses, do we 
really think it's OK to have such extensive work be done on gTLD WHOIS only? 
The level of confusion this risks generating for businesses that are not domain 
savvy, and may not understand that there are different rules for, say, .COM and 
.DE, should not be underestimated.</div> <div style=""><br></div><div 
style="">Thanks,</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div 
dir="ltr">Stéphane Van Gelder<br>Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur<br><a 
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 February 2014 04:22, Steve DelBianco 
<span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote 
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc 
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div style="word-wrap:break-word"> <div 
style="font-size:16px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <div>Attached are draft 
BC comments and questions on the Status Update from the expert working group on 
gTLD Directory Services. &nbsp;</div> <div><br> </div> <div>The EWG status 
update is&nbsp;<a 
 target="_blank">here</a>, and described on this <a 
target="_blank"> page</a>. &nbsp;Comments close 28-Feb, so today begins a 
12-day member review period.</div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;</div> <div>Thanks to BC 
members Jimson Olufuye, Tim Chen, and Susan Kawaguchi for this drafting 
work.&nbsp;</div> <div><br> </div> <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 
40px;border:none;padding:0px"> <div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">Jimson is 
the CEO of Kontemporary, a systems Integration and ICT Consultancy firm. Though 
less than 10% of the company revenue is from domain businesses, he has 
interacted extensively with gTLD and ccTLD WHOIS registry systems.</font></div> 
<div><br> </div> <div>BC members are familiar with Susan’s many years of work 
to improve WHOIS, first with eBay and now with Facebook. &nbsp; Susan was 
appointed to the WHOIS review team two years ago and is now a member of the EWG 
on Directory Services. &nbsp;</div> </blockquote> </div> <blockquote 
style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"> <div 
style="font-size:16px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <br> </div> <div><font 
face="Calibri,sans-serif">Tim is CEO of DomainTools, whose products partly rely 
on whois data to help users understand who operates a given website or IP 
address, and to also make connections between domain names. &nbsp;DomainTools' 
clients include law enforcement, trademark attorneys, cybercrime investigators, 
brand protection agents, and a wide variety of professionals in the DNS 
industry.</font></div> <div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><br> </font></div> 
</blockquote> <span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <div 
<span> <div 
<div>All BC members are invited to REPLY ALL with edits (using TRACK CHANGES, 
please). &nbsp;</div> </div> </span></div> </span> <div><br> </div> <span 
style="font-size:16px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <div 
<span> <div 
<div>Note that the second half of this draft shows a dialog between Tim and 
Jimson regarding certain aspects of Directory Services. &nbsp;Based on member 
feedback, we will refine that section into additional points or questions for 
the EWG.</div> <div> <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 
40px;border:none;padding:0px"> <div><br> </div> </blockquote> </div> <div> 
<div> <div>—</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> <div> <div>Steve 
DelBianco</div> <div>Vice chair for policy coordination</div> </div> <div><br> 
</div> </font></span></div> </div> <div><br> </div> </div> </span></div> 
</span> </div> </blockquote></div><br></div> 

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