Re: [Gnso-liaison] Draft Advisory Concerning Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy

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Cheryl and all,

  I would suggest that we discuss the transfer problems, some
of which are ongoing on the GA list, on the GA list forum instead
of creating yet another specilized mailing list which interested
parties will need to subscribe to as well as keep track of.  It's
just more efficient IMHO.  

  I know that the transfer individual issues are well known
and well documented already.  My other question given this is
the case, is why are we rehashing the same issues regarding
transfer via the RAA's yet again?  

  Additionally, why are some registrars like GoDaddy able to
remain in obayance of the transfer policy in place now, which
is of questionable value, without sanction by the GNSO or
the ICANN staff/bod?  Shades of RegistryFly yet again perhaps?

Regards,

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-----Original Message-----
>From: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <cheryl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Dec 7, 2007 12:30 PM
>To: 'Alan Greenberg' <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: gnso-liaison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 'Robert Guerra' 
><rguerra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 'Hawa DIAKITE' <hawadiakite@xxxxxxxxx>, 
>vanda@xxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [Gnso-liaison] Draft Advisory Concerning Inter-Registrar  
>Transfer Policy
>
>Hi every one...  I did raise this issue to the At-Large list in my email
>dated 05/12/07 (my time zone so 04/12/07 for the rest of you)  see my point
>4. In the attached...
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>And I do (believe me) recognise that we have neither the time, or the need,
>to respond to everything...  Either as a Policy piece or commentary...
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>But... 
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>Regarding this Draft Advisory, it appears to me that there is an
>opportunity, and here I would suggest the use of Alan as our Liaison to
>GNSO, to make clear that we both appreciate and support this effort to
>better inform and aid in the understanding of the intention and meaning of
>this advisory to both the registrar and registrant community... Or words to
>that effect...  And further that to complement the directive regarding the
>registrar requirement to make available to their customers information on
>the transfer process (note here the clearly and accessible requirement) ALAC
>and the At-Large Community will investigate best ways and opportunities  to
>promote the ICANN page at
>http://www.icann.org/transfers/text.htm#TransferDomain   and the effective
>use of the dedicated email address transfer-questions@xxxxxxxxx  for queries
>from the public regarding transfer of domain names. 
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>If we agree to that, then I would further propose *for future discussion*
>that ALAC may (if the concept is supported by the At-Large Community), in
>some future Agenda  call for  the development of some sort of  Domain Name
>Supplier of Registrar Code of Practice (as a self regulatory model),
>similar to that developed in some ccTLDs  (e.g.  the auDA one see Code
><http://www.auda.org.au/cop/>  of Practice Committee – which drafted and
>reviewed .au Domain Name Suppliers' Code of Practice (2002-2004); all
>details of all meetings and public submissions are here
>http://www.auda.org.au/cop/cop-index/ and the final published policy is here
>http://www.auda.org.au/policies/auda-2004-04/ ) this issue could also relate
>to any future Internet Users Bill of Right  that is being discussed at this
>time in several fora...
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>What do you all think??
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>CLO
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>From: Nick Ashton-Hart [mailto:nick.ashton-hart@xxxxxxxxx] 
>Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 3:09 AM
>To: gnso-liaison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: Cheryl Langdon-Orr; vanda@xxxxxxxxxx; Robert Guerra
>Subject: Draft Advisory Concerning Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy
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>FYI
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>[To: council[at]gnso.icann.org; liaison6c[at]gnso.icann.org]
>[To: ga[at]gnso.icann.org; announce[at]gnso.icann.org]
>[To: regional-liaisons[at]icann.org]
>
>A Draft Advisory Concerning Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy
>http://gnso.icann.org/issues/transfers/gnso-draft-transfer-advisory-14nov07.
>pdf
>is posted on pages
>What's New at http://gnso.icann.org/,
>and also under Transfers
>at http://gnso.icann.org/issues/.
>
>The purpose of this advisory is to assist ICANN-accredited registrars
>and domain-name registrants in understanding how the Inter-Registrar
>Transfer Policy requirements apply in certain common situations , and to
>ensure a consistent understanding of the current policy requirements.
>The advisory is based on issues identified by a working group consisting
>of both registry and registrar representatives in the process of
>reviewing the policy for effectiveness. As part of the review the group
>also referred a list of issues to the GNSO for further consideration
>(see http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/Transfer-Policy-Issues-23aug07.pdf).
>
>The draft advisory is also posted for Public Comment
>http://www.icann.org/public_comment/
>Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy
>Public Comments Open:         15 November 2007
>Public Comments Close:         7 December 2007
>            
>Explanation: The GNSO Council, in the process of reviewing the
>Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy, formed a working group to review the
>effectiveness of the policy and identify areas where future policy work
>might be beneficial.
>
>One of the working group's outputs was a draft advisory containing
>certain reminders and clarifications relevant to the policy.
>
>In accordance with the GNSO Council's resolution of 20 September 07,
>this draft Advisory is being posted for constituency and community
>review and comment. The input received will be reviewed and analyzed by
>the GNSO Council, pursuant to which this or an amended form of the draft
>may be released as a community advisory.
>
>Announcement | Comments | Add comment | Summary/analysis of comments
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>Thank you for taking the time to comment.
>
>Glen de Saint Géry
>GNSO Secretariat - ICANN
>gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org
>http://gnso.icann.org
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>-- 
>Regards,
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>Nick Ashton-Hart
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