Re: [ga] ICANN Board can intervene to stop domain tasting for 1 year
- To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ICANN Domain name tasting <domain-tasting-2008@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board can intervene to stop domain tasting for 1 year
- From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:22:00 -0800
George and all,
I disagree that using a $0.25 fee to address this problem will be
effective or is fair to potential ligitimate registrants/users. NSI and
any other Registrars or Registries should be made/forced to discontinue
this practice and police adaquately without additional cost, their
operations and ICANN which has oversite responsibility should be
held directly responsible for correcting/eliminating this errant practice
as after all, it was ICANN that created the problem in the first place
even after being warned long in advance.
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George Kirikos wrote:
> --- Dominik Filipp <dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > malicious in result as domain tasting itself. If not stopped, it is
> > likely that other registrars will be encouraged to do the same as
> > this
> > practice currently gives NSI an advantage over other registrars. As a
> > result, the registrants will become victims impelled to register
> > domains
> > at registrar at which they did the first (and last) whois lookup.
> Right, the arms race would escalate and be destabilizing to the
> registration system. Just as an example of some numbers, more than
> 50,000 domain names were reserved yesterday, making NSI #2 for most
> active nameservers:
> > Both practices have one thing in common, exploiting the AGP.
> > Elimination
> > of the AGP seems to be more and more the most effective solution to
> > avoid both and all similar AGP-related practices. That is something
> > we
> > both can agree upon.
> And I believe NSI wants this too. According to PC World:
> "Mitchell added that if ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names
> and Numbers), the organization that oversees the domain name system,
> would move to cut down on these type of scams, then his company
> wouldn't have to engage in this kind of automatic search registration.
> "We would be perfectly happy to end this process if ICANN or the
> registries would do something to protect small businesses or other
> small users," he said.
> A US$0.25 non-refundable domain name registration fee would probably be
> enough to make domain tasting or front running unprofitable, he added."
> I'm glad Mitchell agrees that making it uneconomic for automated
> abusers is the way to go. Whether it's a non-refundable fee, or some
> other method that would impose a real economic cost in a different way
> (similar to how CAPTCHAs attempt to reduce spam), in case a
> non-refundable fee doesn't fly (or violates a contract). E.g. forcing
> registrars to receive deletion requests on a domain by domain basis
> (above a certain fractional basis relative to kept domains), 1 piece of
> physical 8.5"x11" paper per request, signed by the registrant or the
> registrar, and have those requests available for ICANN inspection,
> stored for 7 years, would do the trick. An abuser deleting 1 million
> names would have to store 1 million pages of paper for 7 years. That'd
> take up a lot of space! :) And imagine the time spent individually
> signing 1 million pages of paper? (i.e. make rules that one can't use
> an automated signature, but it has to be a pencil/penl) :) I'm sure we
> can brainstorm equivalent CAPTCHAs to knock out abusive
> George Kirikos