Re: [gnso-acc-sgb] Private vs. business Whois

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Wout and all sgb members,

  By complaints, do you mean a official filing of same, such
as a police report or some form of court filed complaint?

Or will an eMail form anyone complaining be considered
a reasonable form by which LEA's and/or other third
parties may than access the private data?

Natris, Wout de wrote:

> John and others,
>
> The private/business approach would definitely be useful. There's one
> but from a EU privacy point of view. The name of the employee who is
> mentioned as contactperson, etc. in the Whois data is concidered private
> also.
>
> For OPTA this distinction is fine as long the privacy sensitive
> information is accessable for LEAs in a form of tiered access after
> complaints on a website are received.
>
> Best,
>
> Wout
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-gnso-whois-wg@xxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-gnso-whois-wg@xxxxxxxxx] Namens John Levine
> Verzonden: dinsdag 22 mei 2007 7:13
> Aan: gnso-whois-wg@xxxxxxxxx
> Onderwerp: Re: [gnso-whois-wg] GAC's position on Whois
>
> >>>> "Suzanne Sene" <ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 5/18/2007 10:52 AM >>>
> >>access to whois data in support of those activities is legal in the
> >>united states.  in other words, there is no inconsistency between
> >>public access to whois data and national laws.
> >
> >in the above sentence, insert "U.S." between "whois data and" and
> >"national laws"
>
> Good point.  But then add:
>
> "or anywhere else, for the vast majority of domains that are registered
> by businesses and organizations rather than individuals."
>
> It is my impression that most places consider people to have
> considerably more privacy rights than organizations.  Even here in the
> U.S., if I rent a box at the post office, if I rent it as myself my
> physical info is private, if I rent it as a business it's not.
>
> Most domains are registered by businesses.  All the ones used for
> phishing and scams are businesses by definition. We could make our lives
> a whole lot easier if we treated organizational and individual
> registrants differently, and redacted the contact info for the people
> who, by law and custom, can reasonably expect that, and not for the
> organizations that don't.
>
> R's,
> John
>
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