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RE: [gnso-arr-dt] Call for Applicants for the Position of Volunteer Review Team Member

  • To: "Zahid Jamil" <zahid@xxxxxxxxx>, <gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-arr-dt] Call for Applicants for the Position of Volunteer Review Team Member
  • From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:48:04 -0500

At some point I think it will be smart to try to put ourselves in the shoes of 
the selectors.  I understand that involves some guesswork, but I think it is 
smart to try and endorse candidates that we think will be supported by them.
 
Chuck


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        From: owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Zahid Jamil
        Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:09 AM
        To: gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject: RE: [gnso-arr-dt] Call for Applicants for the Position of 
Volunteer Review Team Member
        
        

        This exchange makes me reconsider the strict allocation of 4 candidates 
to 4 SGs.  My view would be to have a more liberal/flexible approach.  Am 
wondering what, if any the issues would be if more than just 4 candidates are 
put forward by the GNSO?

         

        Sincerely,

         

         

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        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Rosette, Kristina
        Sent: 15 January 2010 20:07
        To: gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject: RE: [gnso-arr-dt] Call for Applicants for the Position of 
Volunteer Review Team Member

         

         

        I disagree on both counts.

         

        First, it is my understanding that NCAs are not GNSO members.  That's 
why they are appointed by the NomCom in the first instance.

         

        Second, if we go with a House selection, we have only 2 candidates.  I 
believe the GNSO's interests are best served by presenting a wider number of 
candidates, and going by SG facilitates that goal.  As to Bill's point about 
exclusion, I understand the concern.  However, it is my understanding that many 
of the not yet-constituency participants are actually already members of an SG, 
constituency, or ALAC (dotBerlin - potential City TLD constituency is a BC 
member).  Are the members of the Consumer and CyberSafety 
constituencies-in-formation NCUC members or NCSG members?  I think the other 
potential constituencies may be "accounted for".

         

         

         

        -----Original Message-----

        From: KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx] 

        Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:58 PM

        To: cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx; olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

        Cc: Rosette, Kristina; tim@xxxxxxxxxxx; gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx

        Subject: AW: [gnso-arr-dt] Call for Applicants for the Position of 
Volunteer Review Team Member

         

        For sure, Olga, the NCAs should be treated the same fair way as the 
other potential GNSO applicants. So let's think about nominations on houses' 
level:

        - each house may nominate 1 volunteer for each RT (including ranking 
according to their interests)

        - the selectors should select from this pool that each house covers 2 
RTs

         

        Fair? Comments?

         

         

        Regards

        Wolf-Ulrich

         

         

         

        -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

        Von: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

        Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Januar 2010 21:25

        An: Olga Cavalli

        Cc: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; krosette@xxxxxxx; tim@xxxxxxxxxxx; 
gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx

        Betreff: RE: [gnso-arr-dt] Call for Applicants for the Position of 
Volunteer Review Team Member

         

        Thanks for clarifying Olga.

         

        Chuck 

         

        > -----Original Message-----

        > From: olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 

        > Of Olga Cavalli

        > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:10 PM

        > To: Gomes, Chuck

        > Cc: KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx; krosette@xxxxxxx; tim@xxxxxxxxxxx; 

        > gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx

        > Subject: Re: [gnso-arr-dt] Call for Applicants for the Position of 

        > Volunteer Review Team Member

        > 

        > Chuck,

        > 2 NCA are part of the noncontracted and contractded houses (one in 

        > each house), the other is independent.

        > We are not part of stakeholder groups.

        > If selection process is done among the stakeholder groups and they 
are 

        > nominating one rep each, then it is fair to consider that NCAs should 

        > have their own.

        > Regards

        > Olga

        > 

        > 2010/1/14 Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:

        > >

        > > Olga,

        > >

        > > Are you suggesting that the GNSO submit 5 nominees?  Note

        > that the SGs could nominate a NCA or someone not even part of the 

        > Council.

        > >

        > > Chuck

        > >

        > >> -----Original Message-----

        > >> From: owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx

        > >> [mailto:owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Olga Cavalli

        > >> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:38 PM

        > >> To: KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx

        > >> Cc: krosette@xxxxxxx; tim@xxxxxxxxxxx; gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx

        > >> Subject: Re: [gnso-arr-dt] Call for Applicants for the Position of 

        > >> Volunteer Review Team Member

        > >>

        > >>

        > >> Hi,

        > >> In the case that each of the 4 SGs in the GNSO nominate a 

        > >> representative, then there must be also another

        > representative from

        > >> the Noncom Appointees.

        > >> Regards

        > >> Olga

        > >>

        > >> 2010/1/14  <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>:

        > >> >

        > >> > The only driver is the timeline set in the AOC for the RTs.

        > >> For the Acc. and Transp. RT it's definitely end of 2010.

        > >> That's why I feel some understanding to the boards pressure to get 

        > >> the whole thing started asap.

        > >> > I sympathize with the idea of each SG nominating 1

        > >> representative per RT. We could ask the SGs to rank their

        > preferences

        > >> to be included. The selectors should ensure that different

        > RTs shall

        > >> be covered by different SGs in case they stick to 1 GNSO

        > member per

        > >> RT only.

        > >> > At least 1 GNSO representative to the stability and

        > >> security RT should also be a must.

        > >> >

        > >> > The ISPCP constituency shall discuss the process as well as

        > >> come up with potential volunteers by next week followed by 

        > >> co-ordination within the CSG.

        > >> >

        > >> >

        > >> > Best regards

        > >> > Wolf-Ulrich

        > >> >

        > >> >

        > >> >

        > >> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

        > >> > Von: owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx

        > >> [mailto:owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx]

        > >> > Im Auftrag von Rosette, Kristina

        > >> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Januar 2010 16:39

        > >> > An: Tim Ruiz; gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx

        > >> > Betreff: RE: [gnso-arr-dt] Call for Applicants for the

        > Position of

        > >> > Volunteer Review Team Member

        > >> >

        > >> >

        > >> > "So making this call seems to say that the Board isn't

        > >> really interested in analyzing the comments and adjusting the

        > >> draft."    Completely agree and particularly ironic that they

        > >> do so for the Accountability and Transparency review team.

        > >> >

        > >> > Not sure if I agree (on the fence) w/r/t contracted and non

        > >> contracted party reps on each team. Either way, will be a

        > hard sell,

        > >> I think.

        > >> >

        > >> > Will be offline for the better part of today b/c of client

        > >> meetings, but will read through all postings tonight.

        > >> >

        > >> > -----Original Message-----

        > >> > From: owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx

        > >> [mailto:owner-gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx]

        > >> > On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz

        > >> > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:14 AM

        > >> > To: gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx

        > >> > Subject: RE: [gnso-arr-dt] Call for Applicants for the

        > Position of

        > >> > Volunteer Review Team Member

        > >> >

        > >> >

        > >> > Agree. But what really bothers about this call is that

        > >> there is only a discussion draft posted and it is open for public 

        > >> comment until 31 January. So making this call seems to say

        > that the

        > >> Board isn't really interested in analyzing the comments

        > and adjusting

        > >> the draft.

        > >> >

        > >> > One of the biggest problems I see with it is the size of

        > >> teams. I agree that they should be kept reasonably small,

        > but given

        > >> the diversity of stakeholders I think they are too small. For 

        > >> example, only one GNSO related volunteer is allowed. I strongly 

        > >> believe that both contracted and non-contracted parties

        > (both Houses)

        > >> need to represented on these teams.

        > >> >

        > >> > So whatever process we come up for volunteers to apply we

        > >> should keep in mind that the aspects of how these reviews will be 

        > >> conducted may change (size of the teams for example).

        > >> And I hope that the Council will be commenting on this before the 

        > >> comment period closes.

        > >> >

        > >> > Tim

        > >> >

        > >> > -------- Original Message --------

        > >> > Subject: RE: [gnso-arr-dt] Call for Applicants for the

        > Position of

        > >> > Volunteer Review Team Member

        > >> > From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

        > >> > Date: Thu, January 14, 2010 9:03 am

        > >> > To: "Olga Cavalli" <olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

        > >> > Cc: <gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx>

        > >> >

        > >> >

        > >> > ICANN has already called for volunteers but asks them to

        > >> apply through their SO/AC. How do they do that? We need a

        > process for

        > >> that. What value is there in the GNSO calling for

        > volunteers until we

        > >> have a process and some agreement on GNSO objectives?

        > >> >

        > >> > Chuck

        > >> >

        > >> >> -----Original Message-----

        > >> >> From: olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx]

        > >> On Behalf

        > >> >> Of Olga Cavalli

        > >> >> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 9:54 AM

        > >> >> To: Gomes, Chuck

        > >> >> Cc: gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx

        > >> >> Subject: Re: [gnso-arr-dt] Call for Applicants for the

        > Position of

        > >> >> Volunteer Review Team Member

        > >> >>

        > >> >> Thanks Chuck.

        > >> >> Maybe you talked about this yesterday, if this is the case

        > >> apologies.

        > >> >> Wy don´t we start by making a call for volunteers in the

        > >> GNSO and see

        > >> >> how many of us are willing to serve as members of the

        > review teams?

        > >> >> At the same time we can work on the procedures.

        > >> >> Regards

        > >> >> Olga

        > >> >>

        > >> >>

        > >> >> 2010/1/14 Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:

        > >> >> > Late yesterday, ICANN posted "Call for Applicants for the

        > >> >> Position of

        > >> >> > Volunteer Review Team Member ". It is a permanent call for

        > >> >> volunteers

        > >> >> > but the cutoff for the first review (Accountability &

        > >> >> Transparency) is

        > >> >> > 17 February. The document can be found here:

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> http://www.icann.org/en/reviews/affirmation/call-for-applicant

        > >> >> s-11jan10-en.pdf.

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> > Of particular interest to this DT:

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> > Interested individuals are asked to apply through their

        > >> Supporting

        > >> >> > Organizations or Advisory Committees by sending a short

        > >> CV (maximum

        > >> >> > three

        > >> >> > pages) and a one-page motivation letter to the following

        > >> >> email address:

        > >> >> > rtcandidatures@xxxxxxxxx.

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> > Applicants should possess the following professional and

        > >> >> personal skills:

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> > Sound knowledge of ICANN and its working practices and

        > >> >> culture; Good

        > >> >> > knowledge of the subject area of the review; Team spirit, 

        > >> >> > adaptability; Willingness to learn; Capacity to put

        > >> aside personal

        > >> >> > opinions or preconceptions; Analytical skills; Ability

        > >> to interpret

        > >> >> > quantitative and qualitative evidence; Capacity to draw

        > >> conclusions

        > >> >> > purely based on evidence; Commitment to devote his/her

        > >> time to the

        > >> >> > review process

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> > Composition of each review team will aim to achieve:

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> > Geographic diversity;

        > >> >> > Gender balance;

        > >> >> > Understanding of ICANN's role and the basic Internet

        > >> ecosystem in

        > >> >> > which ICANN operates; Expertise in a discipline related to

        > >> >> the review

        > >> >> > topic (relevant technical expertise, if required by the

        > >> >> scope of the

        > >> >> > review); No double membership, meaning that the same

        > individuals

        > >> >> > cannot be appointed to serve on more than one review

        > >> team. This is

        > >> >> > strongly suggested in considering the relevant amount of

        > >> time that

        > >> >> > will be required by the review exercises.

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> > Because of the 17 Feb deadline for applicants for the A&T

        > >> >> review and

        > >> >> > the need for applicants to apply through their SO or AC,

        > >> >> the GNSO will

        > >> >> > need to develop and approve a process to accommodate this

        > >> >> as soon as

        > >> >> > possible but certainly as close to the beginning of

        > >> >> February as possible.

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> > Note that items 2 & 3 above provide a good start on

        > >> qualifications.

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> > Chuck

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> >

        > >> >> >

        > >> >>

        > >> >

        > >> >

        > >> >

        > >> >

        > >> >

        > >>

        > >>

        > >

        > >

        > 



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