RE: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] RE: Call details / Call of authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG

["Metalitz, Steven" <met@xxxxxxx>]

Sorry Amr.  We wrapped up the call in about 20 minutes (Volker, Marc and I).  
Marc will be responding to my questions on the list and we hope we can 
jump-start some progress that way before deciding when or whether to schedule 
another call.

I am sorry to hear that the dial-out did not happen.  I am not sure who from 
staff is on this list but I hope one of them can respond on that.

Steve



From: Amr Elsadr [mailto:aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 9:43 AM
To: Authoritative Thick WHOIS
Cc: Metalitz, Steven; GNSO Secretariats
Subject: Re: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] RE: Call details / Call of 
authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG

Hi..., sorry I'm late but I was away from my computer and had asked for a 
dial-out, which I didn't get. I've dialed in, but am waiting for the 
"subscriber" to join me to the call.

Is the call still going on?

Thanks.

Amr

On Dec 21, 2012, at 2:22 AM, Jill Titzer wrote:


My apologies I will be unable to attend tomorrow's call.  I am on vacation.   
Thank you.  Happy holidays to everyone!

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] RE: Call details / Call of
authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG
From: "Metalitz, Steven" <met@xxxxxxx<mailto:met@xxxxxxx>>
Date: Thu, December 20, 2012 2:58 pm
To: Authoritative Thick WHOIS 
<gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx>>
Cc: GNSO Secretariats <gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>>, "Berry 
Cobb
(mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>)" 
<mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>

Authoritativeness subgroup volunteers,

In preparation for our subgroup call tomorrow (Friday) at 1500 UTC (see below 
for dial-in information), here is the relevant excerpt from our working group 
charter:
Authoritativeness:  what are the implications of a 'thin' Registry possibly 
becoming authoritative for registrant Whois data following the transition from 
a thin-registry model to a thick-registry model. The Working Group should 
consider the term "authoritative" in both the technical (the repository of the 
authoritative data) and policy (who has authority over the data) meanings of 
the word when considering this issue.

"Authoritativeness" is not mentioned in either the preliminary or final issue 
report on thick Whois.  This topic was added by the Drafting Team that 
developed our charter.

Here are a few questions that might kick off our discussions tomorrow:

1.  Are we clear on the "technical" and "policy" definitions of "authoritative" 
as set out in the charter?
2.  Are there other relevant perspectives on "authoritativeness" - for example, 
the perspective(s) of the Whois data user?
3.  What is the "authoritative" Whois data in a thick Whois setting:
(a)  for a gTLD registry that is "born thick"?
(b) after a gTLD registry has migrated from thin to thick (e.g., .org)?
4.  What is the impact of any change in authoritativeness after a gTLD registry 
migrates from thin to thick on:
                (a)  the registry?
                (b)  registrars?
                (c)  domain name registrants?
                (d)  Whois users?
       (e)  Others?

Your suggestions for other questions (or for modifying these) are welcomed!

Finally here is the list of our subgroup volunteers as displayed on our 
subgroup wiki page:

Members

  *   Jill Titzer (RrSG)
  *   Titi Akinsanmi (ALAC)
  *   Amr Elsadr (NCSG)
  *   Tim Ruiz (RrSG)
  *   Jeff Neuman (RySG)
  *   Steve Metalitz (IPC) - lead
  *   Marc Anderson (RySG)
  *   Volker Greimann (RrSG)
  *   Ray Fassett (RySG)


Talk to you tomorrow!

Steve Metalitz



From: 
owner-gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx>
 [mailto:owner-gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gisella 
Gruber
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:35 AM
To: Authoritative Thick WHOIS
Cc: GNSO Secretariats
Subject: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] Call details / Call of 
authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG

Dear All,

The call of Authoritativeness subgroup of Thick Whois WG is scheduled on Friday 
21 December 2012 at 1500 UTC:

0700 PST, 1000 EST, 1500 UTC

Conference ID: 7308

Dial in numbers:
USA:                                                     toll free: 1 800 550 
6865 / toll +1 213 233 3193
For all other numbers:
http://www.adigo.com/icann
If you require a dial-out, please email 
gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx> with your preferred number.

Thank you!
Kind regards,
Gisella

On 17/12/2012 20:13, "Metalitz, Steven" <met@xxxxxxx<mailto:met@xxxxxxx>> wrote:


Thanks Tim.

It looks like Friday, 12/21 at 10 am EST (1500 UTC) works for at least several 
folks so please mark that date/time on your calendar for a call of our subgroup.

I will not be able to attend tomorrow's full working group call but I assume 
that some other subgroup members will and if so I hope they will share with us 
on Friday whatever pearls of wisdom are dispensed then that would help to guide 
us in the subgroup.

Steve Metalitz

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ruiz [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 8:44 AM
To: Metalitz, Steven; 
'gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:'gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx>'
Subject: RE: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] RE: Doodle poll re call of 
authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG

Steve,

Completed the poll with some dates that I "might" be able to make a call, but 
the likelihood is that family/holiday activities will conflict.

Best,
Tim


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] RE: Doodle poll re call of 
authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG
From: "Metalitz, Steven" <met@xxxxxxx<mailto:met@xxxxxxx>>
Date: Fri, December 14, 2012 12:27 pm
To: "Metalitz, Steven" <met@xxxxxxx<mailto:met@xxxxxxx>>,        
"'gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:'gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx>'"
 
<gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx>>

We got few responses, perhaps because there ended up being so little lead time 
before the proposed meeting dates/times.

We have now refreshed the Doodle poll with some options later in next week.  
Please visit (or revisit) http://www.doodle.com/xg4gav95k36yazv3 ASAP to 
indicate your availability.  Thanks!

Steve Metalitz

From: 
owner-gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx>
 [mailto:owner-gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Metalitz, 
Steven
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:40 AM
To: 
'gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:'gnso-authoritative-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx>'
Subject: [gnso-authoritative-thickwhois] Doodle poll re call of 
authoritativeness subgroup of thick Whois WG

Subgroup volunteers,

Sorry, it seems to have taken 48 hours to get the mailing list up and running, 
but if you can visit the link at : http://www.doodle.com/xg4gav95k36yazv3 
today, we can try to get a call scheduled tomorrow or Monday.  Thank you!

Steve Metalitz.