Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Straw poll on number of options
Jumping in here, just to say that under the 2013 RAA the validation of contact info is already mandatory for registrars, requiring them to validate all required fields are present and that all data conforms to the right format. So I am not sure where you are leading with this issue that I see as completely out of scope for this WG. As an aside, validation is a completely useless exercise and waste of time and money as any criminal will just need to reach for the next phone book for a list of perfectly accurate verifyable contact details. As a registrar, I feel comfortable stating that this is now the norm for abusive registrations and there is no way to prevent this with any amount of validation. Best, Volker Am 28.11.2014 05:05, schrieb Pitinan Kooarmornpatana: Dear all, Hope this is not too late to cast my vote. My quick answer is */"Yes - we should have one option" /* that option is */"Mandatory (..to have the trustable contact info)"/*However, in my humble opinion, it is not mandatory to "transform the contact info" but Mandatory to "validate the contact info"As much as I bear in mind that the validate-or-not is out of the scope of our WG’s scope, but I found it's very hard making decision of this two functions separately.Kindly let me try to explain. ----------------------------- I think we do agree that: -----------------------------1. ICANN principle of non-discrimination and reach-out will always allow registrants to input the contact-info in local language – which is good,2. the validated contact info is preferable,3. there will surely be cost associated to the one who do the validation. But, the validation is much cheaper or even only-possible when using contact info in local-script, and using local validator (like Thailand Post validating any Address in Thailand),4. once the contact-info in local script is validated, then it is not too troublesome to 'transform' into any language, either using tool or human-translator for quick understanding purpose or the first clue to contact the entity. And when you need to act any legal action to the entity you will need the legal document in local script or legally-notarized-translated version anyway.5. it is quite promising that ICANN approach of improving whois information will include the validating too.6. Lastly, internet is all connected, any critical rule or policy should apply to all (mandatory) across the globe to avoid the loophole of the internet governance.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------From points above, the answer of transforming-or-not depends on how we do validation. -- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Volker A. Greimann - Rechtsabteilung - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook: www.facebook.com/KeySystems www.twitter.com/key_systems Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen. -------------------------------------------- Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards, Volker A. Greimann - legal department - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated: www.facebook.com/KeySystems www.twitter.com/key_systems CEO: Alexander Siffrin Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone.
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