RE: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] MP3 Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG meeting - 5 March 2015

["Jennifer Chung" <jen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Apologies to all, missed this call this morning.  I will review the recordings 
to catch up on the discussion.

 

Best Regards,

 

Jennifer

 

From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Glen de Saint Géry
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 10:49 AM
To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] MP3 Translation and Transliteration of 
Contact Information PDP WG meeting - 5 March 2015

 

Dear All,


Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of 
Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 5 March 2015  at 
14:00 UTC at:
 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-05mar15-en.mp3> 
http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-05mar15-en.mp3

 

On page: 

http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#mar

The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO

Master Calendar page:

 <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/

 

Attendees:

Chris Dillon – NCSG

Jim Galvin - RySG 

Amr Elsadr – NCUC

Ubolthip Sethakaset – Individual

Rudi Vansnick – NPOC 

Roger Carney – RrSG
Pitinan Kooarmornpatana – GAC
Wanawit Ahkuputra - GAC
Petter Rindforth – IPC
Justine Chew - Individual

Apologies:

Emily Taylor – RrSG

Peter Dernbach- IPC

ICANN staff:

Howard Li
Julie Hedlund – Staff
Lars Hoffmann
Glen de Saint Géry

** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **

 

 Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx 

 

Thank you.

Kind regards,

 

Glen 

Glen de Saint Géry 

GNSO Secretariat 

gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  

http://gnso.icann.org



Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 5 March 2015:
Glen de Saint Gery:Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration Contact 
Information PDP WG on Thursday 5 March  2015 at 1400 UTC

  Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:Hi all 

  Chris Dillon:Hello all

  Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:hi hi hi :)

  Lars Hoffmann:hello everybody

  Rudi Vansnick:good morning, good afternoon, good evening to all

  Rudi Vansnick:it is not impossible i will be dropped of adobe sometimes as 
the provider is executing upgrades of the network in my street 

  Rudi Vansnick:they promised if it happens it would be a short cut off

  Lars Hoffmann:dear all - a full document with 'responses' will be circulated 
tomorrow. 

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks Lars. Really appreciate it.

  Rudi Vansnick:let's try to get through the full list of comments today and 
then produce an update 

  Jim Galvin:+1 amr

  Jim Galvin:anxiously waiting for summary...

  Justine Chew:+1 Jim

  Amr Elsadr:I'm sorry. What number are we on?

  Rudi Vansnick:58

 Amr Elsadr:Thanks Rudi.

  Jim Galvin:careful about references to law enforcement

  Amr Elsadr:I think my point was specifically about LEA requests may not 
specifically be actual legal requirements.

  Justine Chew:+1 Jim

  Amr Elsadr:Jim makes a good point.

  Amr Elsadr:I'm not in favor of using this term. DNR-DS

  Rudi Vansnick:agree with Amr : the charter says WHOIS

  Petter Rindforth:Thats even better

  Rudi Vansnick:good proposal Jim

  Jim Galvin:Well, I would argue that not everyone understands it.  That's why 
we need new terminology.

  Jim Galvin:WHOIS is one of 3 things and that's the confusion.

  Amr Elsadr:Wasn't there that market study that Sarmad was involved in - on 
available systems that automate transformation?

  Rudi Vansnick:it seems there would be a need to identify if the data is 
translated or transliterated 

  Amr Elsadr:@Chris: +1

  Amr Elsadr:I believe this was the finding of the study.

  Rudi Vansnick:would require an additional tag 

  Amr Elsadr:If I'm not mistaken "uniform" is specified in the RAA. I need to 
go back and check that.

  Amr Elsadr:@Jim: +1

  Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:+1 @jim

  Amr Elsadr:@Petter: Are you suggesting that all present and future users are 
proficient in English or another Latin-based script? :)

  Amr Elsadr:The Arab world?

  Petter Rindforth:When it comes to pure business & legal aspects, yes

  Amr Elsadr:Not true Petter. There are many local services in Egypt that are 
provided online in Arabic. There is no reason to assume that the consumers of 
these services speak English or other languages.

  Amr Elsadr:I wouldn't be surprised if that is the case in other countries 
using other languages/scirpts.

  Amr Elsadr:@Jim: +1

  Amr Elsadr:I'm missing the association between the issues pertaining to 
trademarks/lists of goods and services, and contact data in the whois. Not sure 
I understand this.

  Amr Elsadr:Why are we discussing mechanisms? We're supposed to be discussing 
desirability.

  Petter Rindforth:It's an example of automatic translation that works and is 
accepted

  Amr Elsadr:@Petter: Ah Thanks. Missed that point, which changes the context 
for me.

  Rudi Vansnick:wil still have to cover 14 points and as we are close to the 
hour i think we will need another session 

  Amr Elsadr:Yes. The ability to actually do something will impact its 
desirability.

  Rudi Vansnick:do we deliver an updated document next week ?

  Lars Hoffmann:yes rudi

  Amr Elsadr:I thought we'd get it tomorrow?

  Amr Elsadr:OK. Thanks.

  Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:thanks lars 

  Rudi Vansnick:many thanks, hear you all next week

  Roger Carney:Thanks!!

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.

  Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:Thanks all.

  Jim Galvin:thanks all bye