[gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] MP3 Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG meeting - 30 April 2015

[Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear All,


Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of 
Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 30 April 2015  at 
13:00 UTC at: 
http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-30apr15-en.mp3

On page:
http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#apr
The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO
Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar

Attendees:
Chris Dillon - NCSG
Jim Galvin - RySG
Amr Elsadr - NCUC
Petter Rindforth - IPC
Sara Bockey - RrSG
Peter Green - NCUC
Wen Zhai - RySG
Wanawit Ahkuputra - GAC
Pitinan Kooarmornpatana - GAC
Pascal Haddad - Individual
Ubolthip Sethakaset - Individual

Apologies:
 Justine Chew - Individual
Rudi Vansnick - NPOC

ICANN Staff
Julie Hedlund
Lars Hoffmann
Terri Agnew

** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **

 Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx

Thank you.
Kind regards,

Terri Agnew
Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 30 April 2015:

  Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration PDP Working 
Group on Thursday, 30 April 2015.

  Jim Galvin:Jim Galvin has just joined

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Jim Galvin

  Petter Rindforth:Cannot read the coloured response comments

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Amr Elsadr

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks Terri.

  Amr Elsadr:Hi all.

  Lars Hoffmann:here is a link to the word document. i will see if i can upload 
a different colour right now.

  Lars 
Hoffmann:https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/53772762/Public%20comment%20review%20tool%20TT%20Initial%20Report%20V8.5.doc?version=1&modificationDate=1430304578000&api=v2

  Petter Rindforth:thanks

  Lars Hoffmann:highilights should be fixed - and the document is un-synched.

  Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:Hi all

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Pitinan Kooarmorapatana and Pascal Haddad

  Amr Elsadr:We should collect the ideas we have on possible improvements that 
are out of scope, and include them in one or more recommendations to be 
included in the issues report of the post-EWG PDP.

  Pascal Haddad:Hi Everybody

  Amr Elsadr:Not seeing the WG member responses in the doc being shared.

  Amr Elsadr:Hi Pascal.

  Amr Elsadr:Ah. OK Thanks.

  Amr Elsadr:I'm sorry. Where are we?

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks.

  Pascal Haddad:Amr I m sorry to interrupt but I would like to call you at your 
convenience

  Pascal Haddad:to share some ideas

  Amr Elsadr:@Chris: Yes. An error that you have corrected. Apologies. :)

  Amr Elsadr:@Lars: Seems out of scope to me.

  Lars Hoffmann:@amr: it's of course up to the group to decide. it's just how i 
(and other staff) would see it.

  Amr Elsadr:Recommending a policy of machine readabiltiy involves technical 
structure of the database, and display capabilities of whois search services. 
Right?

  Jim Galvin:@amr - machine readability is about the structure of the data in 
transit - eg using XML

  Amr Elsadr:I'm not saying it's a bad idea, just that it warrants more 
discussion before being a PDP WG recommendation.

  Jim Galvin:display can then do what they want and third party applications 
can do what they want. this is the point of the WEIRDS work, the reaplcement 
for WHOIS

  Jim Galvin:third party apps include transformation

  Amr Elsadr:They need to be within the recommendations, just mandated to 
another PDP.

  Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:agree with Amr

  Jim Galvin:yes, push forward to another PDP. the point is not to let the 
issues get lost or forgotten.

  Pascal Haddad:exactly Jim

  Petter Rindforth:It is in fct very helpful for all new WG's to have some kind 
of summary and recommendations from previous WGs, even if those recommendations 
are not formal

  Amr Elsadr:@Petter: Yes. The historical context is always helpful. Serves as 
a guide to drafting of issues reports and WG charters as well.

  Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:on 55 , i'm not sure if the question means , change 
of address ... not just correct the typo?

  Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:i might not sure the intension of the question

  Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:is the change an approved means

  Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:1.change the trasliteration coz it doesn't transform 
correctly ?

  Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:or

  Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:2. change the name of the street name coz he moves 
the house

  Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:okie then

  Amr Elsadr:As I pointed out to Lars before, the accurate transliteration of 
Cairo would be something like "Alqahira". The translation of "Alqahira" would 
be the female form of "The omnipotent conqueror". :)

  Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:that's why may be the 'transform' is preffered . 
which may = mapping

 Pitinan Kooarmorapatana::)

  Petter Rindforth:well, well....

  Amr Elsadr::)

  Petter Rindforth:let's discuss that further off line ;-)

  Amr Elsadr:Sure thing. :)

  Amr Elsadr:This comment was raised by the IPC as far back as the webinar that 
was held on the initial report, but we haven't addressed it yet.

  Amr Elsadr:I think we need to do some homework on this one. :)

  Lars Hoffmann:i can pull up the other version if you like me to.

  Amr Elsadr:Whoops. I forgot to check on an alternative to that. Apologies.

  Amr Elsadr:What question are we on?

  Amr Elsadr:Technically, it isn't unlimited. It is limited by the number of 
scripts/languages that exist. :)

  Amr Elsadr:Was there a first version of the final report? I must have missed 
it.

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks.

  Lars Hoffmann:everybody - i have to log off to join another call. will catch 
the rest on the reconrding. and will stay in the AC room o too. vetalk to you 
all soon!

  Wen Zhai:Bye Lars~

  Amr Elsadr:@Chris: OK. Thanks. That'd be helpful.

  Amr Elsadr:Bye Lars.

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.

  Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:Thanks all

  Petter Rindforth:Thanks for today

  Wen Zhai:Bye all.

  Jim Galvin:Thanks bye!

  Sara Bockey:bye all, thanks

  Chris Dillon:Good bye, everyone.