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Re: [gnso-dataprotection-thickwhois] Conflicts between Whois escrow requirements and data protection laws
- To: Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-dataprotection-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-dataprotection-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [gnso-dataprotection-thickwhois] Conflicts between Whois escrow requirements and data protection laws
- From: Don Blumenthal <dblumenthal@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:13:39 -0500
Marika,
Thanks for the clarification. The escrow questions are new to me, but I have to
wonder what would happen if ICANN weren't able to find a registrar that could
comply with Russian laws.
We can treat this situation either as irrelevant or as an example of where
privacy laws did create an issue with standard Whois processes, even if a
workaround was the solution instead of an ICANN waiver. For discussion. The
call obviously will be on one of the days mentioned for next week. Please enter
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Don
From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Friday, February 8, 2013 2:59 PM
To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>>,
Don Blumenthal <dblumenthal@xxxxxxx<mailto:dblumenthal@xxxxxxx>>,
"gnso-dataprotection-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-dataprotection-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx>"
<gnso-dataprotection-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-dataprotection-thickwhois@xxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: [gnso-dataprotection-thickwhois] Conflicts between Whois escrow
requirements and data protection laws
All, I enquired with my colleague Mike Zupke,Director, Registrar Programs about
this case and he shared the following with me:
ICANN had a couple registrars enroll in the RDE service last year with a Third
Party Provider (TPP) of escrow services (i.e., not Iron Mountain) as a way to
comply with a fairly new Russian privacy law. This sort of arrangement is
consistent with all RDE requirements, and in fact, is explicitly permitted in
the RAA. Similar arrangements have been made on occasion before (but for
unrelated reasons). There is no difference in the substance or type of data
that gets escrowed by these registrars.
The issue of Russian law was raised by the registrars themselves, so I don't
have all of the details, but my understanding is that the new Russian privacy
law requires companies who hold personal data to get permission from their
customers before using it in certain ways. The TPP arrangement was proposed by
the registrars to address this requirement. There may have been other
alternatives available but this was the path they chose.
In any event, ICANN did not issue a waiver or exemption to the registrars
involved. We did agree that, if we have to release the data because of
registrar termination, we'd give preference to potential gaining registrars who
could comply with that Russian law.
I hope that helps. Please let me know if you need additional information.
Thanks.
With best regards,
Marika
On 07/02/13 21:27, "Alan Greenberg"
<alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
It would be rather useful to know if they have a
similar problem just registering names with .org
or other thick registries. Is the sending of that
data subject to the same rules as we are discussing here, or somehow different?
Alan
At 07/02/2013 02:52 PM, Don Blumenthal wrote:
Shared for possible relevance.
I had correspondence with Maxim Alzoba from
FAITID on another matter and Whois conflicts
came up. FAITID apparently negotiated non
standard escrow language because of problems
with Russian law after Centrohost received an ICANN breach notice.
Here's his summary of what happened. The
specific language differences are confidential.
===========
1.
15sep2010
Registrator Centrohost IANA#1426 (now it changed
name to Registrar R01) received warning on data escrow
(that it must execute data escrow addendum to
ICANN registrar contract(RAA 2001 at that moment of time)
- RDE agreement no later than in two months (by
15oct 2010) and start uploads no later than in three months (15 dec2010))
2. our legal dept read through the RDE agreement
and found that it will force us to breach russian legislation on
personal data protection due to two reasons :
2.1. almost impossible to find a single russian
company in the Data Escrow business (TPP (Third Party Provider) requirements
of non-affiliation with the industry, 250k USD
of liquid assets + 10 years of business ..) in Russia ...
(we found the way to comply in this bit after
few months - NCC Group , one of their UK legal
bodies ... which is UK company and falls under the smae
Data Protection EU directive)
2.2. beneficiary of the data could be anyone (and under Russian 152-FZ and
Convention on protection of the rights of
individuals in the automated processing of the
personal data from January, 28th, 1981 ETS ¹
108we should use only countries which used
"adequate means to ensure security"
- so we requested a guidance from our regulator on what should we do
the reason to ask was this: breach of personal
data protection russian laws in cases where >100k records involved could
lead CEO of the russian company to 5 years term
(it sounds horrible, but that never happens in real life)
3. regulator issued a letter saying that:
3.1. these countries mentioned are - only those which ratified 95/46/EC
3.2 we have to ensure that the priority order of
data beneficiaries are ... russian personal data
operators ICANN accredited as registrars
, EU (95/46/EC countries) ICANN accredited
registrars [ the second tier was negotiated with
the regulator, since the reference was to 95/46/EC]
also the letter had reference to
Convention on protection of the rights of
individuals in the automated processing of the
personal data from January, 28th, 1981 ETS ¹ 108
(cross border transfer of personal data)
4. tried to negotiate with ICANN / Iron Mountain - but failed ...
5. 12 January 2011 we received NOTICE OF BREACH
OF REGISTRAR ACCREDITATION AGREEMENT
https://www.icann.org/en/news/correspondence/burnette-to-smekaeva-12jan11-en
5.1 we found temporary workaround - uploaded all
data of non-residents and resident & non resident companies
(non residents and legal bodies are not
protected by the personal data law in russia)
and did not upload data of resident private
persons (luckily only 5% of all domains)
6. we engaged ICANN with all the facts we know and asked them
... were they still trying to force us to break local legislation ?
7. we started work with Tim Cole & NCC Group & ICANN legal
which lead us to ultimately to "russian data escrow contract"
7.1 in which we are exempt from being forced to
breach local legislation if anything ICANN invents is against russian law
(in this contract or it's amendments)
7.2. we have priority list of beneficiaries
(1tier - russian "personal data operators" who
are also ICANN accredited registrars,
2nd tier (when all russians failed ) - any
european (countries which ratified 95/46/EC) ICANN acredited registrars
)
7.3. data escrow operator is UK body and works
under the same Personal data protection directive as we are
95/46/EC
(Russia ratified it too)
!!! in the end .... we managed to change somewhat like 20 or less
lines of the text in the contract in only 2.5 months =]
=========
Maxim will send me the relevant laws and regs.
Don
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