RE: [gnso-dow123] Emailing: 2100-9588_22-5986553.htm

["Mansourkia, Magnolia (Maggie)" <maggie.mansourkia@xxxxxxx>]

No. In fact, Whois data, as we've heard a number of times from various
sectors, is used by many for a variety of purposes, and there is nothing
unobtrusive about the examples given such as (999) 999-9999 as a US
phone number.  If your point is that Whois data is overwhelmingly used
for bad actors and criminals, then I think we can agree.  I also agree
that junk marketing is bad...WAY bad.

-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Seltzer [mailto:wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 5:20 PM
To: Mansourkia, Magnolia (Maggie)
Cc: gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-dow123] Emailing: 2100-9588_22-5986553.htm

At 09:45 PM 12/8/2005 +0000, Mansourkia, Magnolia (Maggie) wrote:
>Yes--common sense! More seriously, ISPs' have some of the largest 
>Internet abuse and complaint departments around and our repeated 
>sampling of complaint stats and data overwhelming bears this out.

Except that there wouldn't be much reason to complain to an abuse 
department about someone unobtrusively using an anonymously 
registered domain name for non-fraudulent purposes -- so you'd tend 
to hear only about the negatives.

There's a Slashdot thread on the GAO report now: 
<http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=170553&threshold=2&mode=nested&comm
entsort=0&op=Change> 
. In a forum as likely to include enforcement zealots as privacy 
activists, there are an awful lot of individuals saying they use 
"false" information to protect their privacy and to avoid junk
marketing.

--Wendy

>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David W. Maher [mailto:dmaher@xxxxxxx]
>Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:16 PM
>To: Mansourkia, Magnolia (Maggie); KathrynKL@xxxxxxx; 
>kstubbs@xxxxxxxxxxxx; gnso-dow123@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [gnso-dow123] Emailing: 2100-9588_22-5986553.htm
>
>Do you have any factual basis for this assertion?
>David Maher
>At 11:24 AM 12/8/2005, Mansourkia, Magnolia (Maggie) wrote:
>
>There are far more bad actors registering domains than there are 
>those falsifying information as a privacy concern.

-- 
Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx
Visiting Assistant Professor of Law, Brooklyn Law School
Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html
Chilling Effects: http://www.chillingeffects.org