Re: [gnso-dow123] Changes to OPOC proposal

[Ross Rader <ross@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Ken Stubbs wrote:
> In my "personal" opinion
>
> Tim's logic apperas to be quite sound here...

Unfortunately it neglects the very important fact that registry 
expiration data is non-authoritative and in a large number of instances, 
presents incorrect expiry and creation data for specific records (one of 
the many reasons why the registrar position has been that only that data 
that can be authoritatively produced should be produced. Until and 
unless the registries are presenting accurate expiration and creation 
data, we should not be reconsidering this position).

These inaccuracies and inconsistencies are introduced because of the 
various auto-renew and deletion policies in place with the various 
registries. Most registries assume that a name will be renewed 
immediately following its expiry and automatically increment the 
expiration date. Registrars, being the practical creatures they are, 
won't increment the expiration date until they have actually received 
money from a registrant. If a registrant queries the registry whois 
(which is quite common because of the historical popularity of the 
InterNIC whois service) then they will get a distorted view of when 
their name should be renewed. This leads to registrant confusion and the 
possible loss of names.

In a well-functioning system, there would only be one legitimate source 
of information about expiration data, and that source most naturally is 
the one that knows the most about whether or not the bills have been 
paid by the registrant or not.

I am not sure what relevancy the domain slamming issue has to do with 
the expiration and creation dates. The registrar proposal does not 
advocate the removal of this data from whois entirely, just at the 
registrar level. The expiration and renewal data will continue to be 
available, but under the registrar proposal, will also have the benefit 
of being accurate and presented by an authoritative source.

Regards,

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                       -ross rader
                        general manager,
                        domain direct/netidentity/nameplanet

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