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Re: [gnso-dow123] Changes to OPOC proposal

  • To: Ken Stubbs <kstubbs@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-dow123] Changes to OPOC proposal
  • From: Ross Rader <ross@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:01:34 -0400

Ken Stubbs wrote:
In my "personal" opinion

Tim's logic apperas to be quite sound here...

Unfortunately it neglects the very important fact that registry expiration data is non-authoritative and in a large number of instances, presents incorrect expiry and creation data for specific records (one of the many reasons why the registrar position has been that only that data that can be authoritatively produced should be produced. Until and unless the registries are presenting accurate expiration and creation data, we should not be reconsidering this position).

These inaccuracies and inconsistencies are introduced because of the various auto-renew and deletion policies in place with the various registries. Most registries assume that a name will be renewed immediately following its expiry and automatically increment the expiration date. Registrars, being the practical creatures they are, won't increment the expiration date until they have actually received money from a registrant. If a registrant queries the registry whois (which is quite common because of the historical popularity of the InterNIC whois service) then they will get a distorted view of when their name should be renewed. This leads to registrant confusion and the possible loss of names.

In a well-functioning system, there would only be one legitimate source of information about expiration data, and that source most naturally is the one that knows the most about whether or not the bills have been paid by the registrant or not.

I am not sure what relevancy the domain slamming issue has to do with the expiration and creation dates. The registrar proposal does not advocate the removal of this data from whois entirely, just at the registrar level. The expiration and renewal data will continue to be available, but under the registrar proposal, will also have the benefit of being accurate and presented by an authoritative source.



                       -ross rader
                        general manager,
                        domain direct/netidentity/nameplanet

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