Re: [gnso-dow123] For your review: Revised version of preliminarytask force report on Whois services
Marilyn Cade wrote:
hmmm, IF there are 20 registrars, then some might be concerned that we don't have the robust competition that ICANN takes credit for. but I've seen statements by the ICANN staff that there are far more... so I am truly confused now!
What's with the word games? You implied that there are 800 operational registrars. I stated that there were approximately 200 operational registrars, and 600 playing the drop game. These 600 have the same accreditation requirements as any other registrar, but they do not sell registrations to the "regular" market - meaning that they have immaterial amounts of data in their whois - these are secondary market players that seek to acquire names dropping from the primary market and take them into private portfolios - which are traditionally managed through regular operational registrars (i.e. the 200 or so). I think you have arranged several consultations and discussions at various ICANN meetings that specifically discussed these market dynamics.
You are the only one that seems to be confused on these points - or maybe not confused...being coy? I'm really not sure. More to the point, you claim that there is a need for consistency across registrars, yet you seem quick to duck the question of "why". Its impossible to move forward towards an understanding of what the issues are if we don't understand the context of your question. What issues are you seeing and what data do you have to suggest that your observation is more than just a localized problem?
From my perspective, the real confusion comes from the FUD you put forward as the basis for this exploration and not from any of the information that Paul and I have shared.
In the interests of trying to understand your position in the hopes that we can actually move the ball forward, I'll ask the original question again -
> > However, I don't believe that this is supportable over 800 registrars. Some
> > form of standardized procedures will undoubtedly be needed to bring
> > certainty and predictability to registrants, irregardless of the interests
> > of registrars to develop kinds of services in this area.
To which I asked: