RE: [gnso-dt-wg] Collecting Facts

["Jeffrey Eckhaus" <jeckhaus@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Mike,

 

I do not want to start a flame war on email or pick on you , so is it
possible we can ask all participants to keep from discussing rumors,
hearsay, anecdotal evidence and informal discussions from this group as
I believe collecting facts is one of the core missions here

 

 

Thanks

 

 

Jeff

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mike Rodenbaugh
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 12:18 AM
To: Jay Westerdal; Alan Greenberg; gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-dt-wg] Collecting Facts

 

The press release does make a distinction between tasting and kiting,

and it is important to keep them differentiated because not all tasting

is kiting.  

 

Hopefully we will find stats to show how much of tasting is actually

kiting, but I think those stats are actually impossible because the

kiters use multiple registrar accreditations and identities to do their

work.  I have seen plenty of anecdotal evidence and reporting, showing

cases of kiting have been found by Verisign informally and alleged by a

few brand owners in court.  Anyone with any info is encouraged to

provide.

 

Mike Rodenbaugh

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On

Behalf Of Jay Westerdal

Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:39 PM

To: 'Alan Greenberg'; gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx

Subject: RE: [gnso-dt-wg] Collecting Facts

 

I just used the Math they provided.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On

Behalf Of Alan Greenberg

Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:03 PM

To: gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx

Subject: RE: [gnso-dt-wg] Collecting Facts

 

Jay, you will be glad to hear that you are one of the experts they 

quote in http://www.cadna.org/prepared-statement-july-24.html.

 

That document also differentiates between kiting and tasting, and 

important distinction that the press release does not bother to 

address, but rather seems to treat all tasted domains as kited.

 

For the record, where did you get the numbers $10-12.50 from?

 

Alan

 

At 24/07/2007 02:28 PM, Jay Westerdal wrote:

>So the average Kited site is bring in $10 - $12.50 a year?

>Why not register the domain for $6 then?

> 

>Perhaps $5 - $20 Million a year. But I think that report

>is bogus and is just making up facts. I want to see some

>real stats and not made up facts.