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RE: [gnso-dt-wg] RE: Comment from Larry Seltzer on GNSO Issues Report on Domain Tasting

To: Patrick Jones <patrick.jones@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-dt-wg] RE: Comment from Larry Seltzer on GNSO Issues Report on Domain Tasting
From: Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:39:47 -0700
<html><body><div>Considering&nbsp;3.1.1, can we get an opinion from ICANN GC 
whether or not a new registry service needs to be applied for then? Sounds like 
it may only require an amendment to the Registry-Registrar Agreement 
constituting the fee and amount, with ICANN's approval of course.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Whether that's relevant to the decisions the ad hoc group needs to make or 
not, it does seem like relevant information that would be good to include as 
background information in a possible&nbsp;SOW. </div>
<div><BR><BR>Tim <BR><BR></div>
<div     ><BR><BR>
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solid" webmail="1">-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: [gnso-dt-wg] 
RE: Comment from Larry Seltzer on GNSO Issues<BR>Report on Domain 
Tasting<BR>From: "Patrick Jones" &lt;patrick.jones@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Date: Fri, 
July 27, 2007 10:10 pm<BR>To: &lt;gnso-dt-wg@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR><BR>
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<div><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: 
navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Larry Seltzer has approved the posting of his email 
below on the DT mailing list.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: 
navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: 
navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: 
navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: 
navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Patrick<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: 
navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
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<div><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Larry Seltzer 
[mailto:Larry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 
bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, July 27, 2007 4:32 PM<BR><B><SPAN 
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx; 
karen.lentz@xxxxxxxxx; patrick.jones@xxxxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 
bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> GNSO Issues Report on Domain 
Tasting</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV>
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12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">Greetings,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV>
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<div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 
12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">I have just become aware of the GNSO Issues Report on Domain Tasting (<A 
href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/domain-tasting/gnso-domain-tasting-report-14jun07.pdf";
 
target=_blank>http://gnso.icann.org/issues/domain-tasting/gnso-domain-tasting-report-14jun07.pdf</A>)&nbsp;of
 which you are listed as authors. In section 3.7&nbsp;you refer to an article I 
wrote:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in">
<div><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">An 18 May 2007 article in eWeek</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial 
size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">52 
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">by Larry 
Seltzer states that &ldquo;stopping<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">domain tasting in particular would show some serious good faith [by 
ICANN].&rdquo;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">He also mentions that VeriSign could impose a re-stocking fee on 
domain<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">tasters. (Note, this is not currently permitted in the .COM registry 
agreement.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">To provide this service, VeriSign would have to submit a request to 
ICANN<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">through the Registry Services Evaluation Policy</SPAN></FONT><FONT 
face=Arial size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">53</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></BLOCKQUOTE>
<div><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">I was referring in my article to what appears to me to be the current 
.COM Registry Agreement (</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A 
href="http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/verisign/appendix-07-01mar06.htm"; 
target=_blank>http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/verisign/appendix-07-01mar06.htm</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT
 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">). In Appendix 7, section 3.1.1 
(<STRONG><B><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Add Grace 
Period</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG>):</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV>
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<div><EM><I><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">Delete.</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> If a domain is deleted within the 
<EM><I><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Add Grace 
Period</SPAN></FONT></I></EM>, the sponsoring Registrar at the time of the 
deletion is credited for the amount of the registration; provided, however, 
that Registry Operator shall have the right to charge Registrars a fee as may 
be set forth in its Registry-Registrar Agreement for disproportionate deletes 
during the <EM><I><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Add Grace 
Period</SPAN></FONT></I></EM>. The domain is deleted from the Registry database 
and is immediately available for registration by any Registrar. See Section 3.2 
for a description of overlapping grace period exceptions. 
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV>
<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">I see the reference in it to the Registry-Registrar agreement. Does that 
have anything to do with your statement about the Registry Services Evaluation 
Policy? In either event, it seems clear to me that the current .COM registry 
agreement does indeed permit a restocking 
fee.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>
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<div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 
12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>
<div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Larry 
Seltzer<BR>eWEEK.com Security Center Editor<BR></SPAN></FONT><A 
title="blocked::http://security.eweek.com/ http://security.eweek.com/"; 
href="blocked::http://security.eweek.com/"; target=_blank><FONT 
title=blocked::http://security.eweek.com/ size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 
10pt">http://security.eweek.com/</SPAN></FONT></A><BR><FONT size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A href="http://blogs.eweek.com/cheap_hack/"; 
target=_blank>http://blogs.eweek.com/cheap_hack/</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT 
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A 
title=http://blog.eweek.com/blogs/larry_seltzer/ 
href="http://blog.eweek.com/blogs/larry_seltzer/"; 
target=_blank></A></SPAN></FONT><A title=http://blog.ziffdavis.com/seltzer 
href="http://blog.ziffdavis.com/seltzer"; target=_blank></A><o:p></o:p></div>
<div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 
10pt">Contributing Editor, PC Magazine</SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">larryseltzer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 
12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></body></html>
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