RE: [gnso-ff-pdp-may08] Documents posted on wiki for next call

["Mike Rodenbaugh" <icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I support asking him for more info, it would be useful as Greg suggests.

Thanks,
Mike


Mike Rodenbaugh
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-ff-pdp-may08@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-ff-pdp-may08@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Aaron
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:24 AM
To: 'Marika Konings'; 'Fast Flux Workgroup'
Subject: RE: [gnso-ff-pdp-may08] Documents posted on wiki for next call

I think that statement 9 below needs further work.  As currently worded, it
implies that the FFWG agrees with the statement or accepts it to be true.
(Remember, this is in the section where we describe who is harmed and how.)
Mr. Woodcock's comments are very interesting, but gave no supporting info.
Perhaps we have two options:

 

1.  Revise to make clear that the WG does not take a position on his
comment.  So revise to read: "9. In the public comment period, Bill Woodcock
of Packet Clearing House stated that fast flux hosting results in a
significant degradation of the quality of service offered by the DNS, which
disproportionately and unfairly burdens those who already find themselves on
the wrong side of the digital divide. The FFWG has not examined supporting
data and takes no position on Mr. Woodcock's conclusions.  For further
details, please see
http://forum.icann.org/lists/fast-flux-initial-report/msg00001.html.";

 

Or

 

2) We can ask Mr. Woodcock for more information for consideration.  His
company looks at Internet routing economics.  It would be interesting to
have data about what percentage of traffic on given network(s) is
attributable to fast-flux attacks and how, examples about how or where
fast-flux attack networks have caused zone transfers to fail, etc.  

 

It is an interesting topic, but the WG doesn't have any supporting info
right now that allows it to reach a conclusion.  

 

All best,

--Greg

 

 

 

________________________________

From: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:12 AM
To: Fast Flux Workgroup
Subject: [gnso-ff-pdp-may08] Documents posted on wiki for next call

 

Dear All,

A first draft of the Fast Flux Final Report has been posted on the wiki
(https://st.icann.org/pdp-wg-ff/index.cgi?fast_flux_pdp_wg) for review on
our conference call tomorrow. Please note that in addition to updates
reflecting that this is the draft final report, the following text has been
included on page 31 to incorporate comment 2a in the report: 

'9. It was pointed out in the public comment period by Bill Woodcock of
Packet Clearing House that fast flux hosting results in a significant
degradation of the quality of service offered by the DNS, which
disproportionately and unfairly burdens those who already find themselves on
the wrong side of the digital divide. For further details, please see
http://forum.icann.org/lists/fast-flux-initial-report/msg00001.html.'

The WG will need to pay special attention to section 5.8, 5.9 and chapters 7
and 8 which will require additional review and modification. In addition,
you will find the updated Fast Flux Public Comments Categorization document
posted on the wiki. For other outstanding action items, please review the
list below.

With best regards,

Marika

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From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:01:31 -0700
To: <gnso-ff-pdp-may08@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gnso-ff-pdp-may08] Action items from Fast Flux call

Dear All,

Please find below the action items from our call today:

Action Items from Fast Flux call on 22 April 2009:

*       Draft email intended to reach out to relevant IETF Directorates to
share FF Initial Report and solicit input (Dave) 
*       Formulate addition to the report incorporating comments made by
Atkinson (1a) and circulate proposed text to mailing list (Dave) 
*       Formulate note on distinction between legitimate / illegitimate use
for incorporation in the report and circulate proposed text to mailing list
(Dave) 
*       Reach out to K Claffy to obtain input on how a mechanism to separate
legitimate and illegitimate use of FF could be developed (James / Marika) 
*       Provide proposal for including comment 2a in the relevant section of
the report for consideration (Marika) 
*       Review and provide recommendations for public comments category 3
(James) and category 4 (Rod / Dave) 
*       Develop draft version of final report, including highlights of
sections that require further consideration and work by the WG (Marika) 
*       Updated fast flux hosting public comments categorization document
(Marika)


Please let me know if I have missed anything.

Those that were not on the call are encouraged to volunteer to review and
provide recommendations for the remaining categories (5, 6, 7, 8 and 9).

The next conference call has been scheduled for next Wednesday 28 April at
14.30 UTC, unless all action items have been addressed before that time.

With best regards,

Marika

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