RE: [gnso-ff-pdp-may08] Final Report: Last Call for Edits

["Mike Rodenbaugh" <icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Re #2, how about we clarify it this way:

Whereas the Working Group did not make recommendations for new consensus
policy, or changes to existing consensus policy,

I'm OK with James' proposal to fix #3.

Thanks,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-ff-pdp-may08@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-ff-pdp-may08@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Aaron
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:46 PM
To: 'James M. Bladel'; icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Subject: RE: [gnso-ff-pdp-may08] Final Report: Last Call for Edits


I agree with James on #2 -- the language should remain as it is in the
draft.  To my recollection, the group never discussed the concept of
mandating a reporting system via Consensus Policy.  The document does not
contain any recommendations for any consensus policy.  

All best,
--Greg






-----Original Message-----
From: James M. Bladel [mailto:jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 5:16 PM
To: icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 'Fast Flux Fast Flux'
Subject: RE: [gnso-ff-pdp-may08] Final Report: Last Call for Edits


Mike:

Good feedback, this is exactly what I was seeking.  With respect to the
clauses you mentioned:

1.  Ok, I see your point.  I am fine with deleting this entire whereas
clause.

2.  I don't think the FFDRS would qualify (yet) as new consensus policy, as
we simply recommend that it be explored / developed.  In this clause, I am
merely stating that we did not modify any of the eight existing policies,
nor did we create a new one.  My preference would be to leave this clause in
the motion.

3.  If you prefer,  we can strike the words:  "for best practices", and end
on "recommendations."

J.


   -------- Original Message --------
 Subject: RE: [gnso-ff-pdp-may08] Final Report: Last Call for Edits
 From: "Mike Rodenbaugh" <icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Date: Tue, August 04, 2009 3:49 pm
 To: "'Fast Flux Fast Flux'" <gnso-ff-pdp-may08@xxxxxxxxx>
 
 
 Thanks James. I disagree with three Whereas clauses. They add nothing to
the motion and can be misconstrued by uninformed readers: 
 
 -- Whereas the Working Group, through its efforts, uncovered numerous
challenges relating to the definition of fast flux hosting, and
distinguishing characteristics between legitimate and illicit uses
 
 This is true, but unnecessary for the motion, and unduly highlights this
difficulty rather than any of our successes.
 
 -- Whereas the Working Group was unable to reach consensus on
recommendations for new consensus policy, or changes to existing GNSO
policies;
 
 In fact, we did reach consensus on the notion that a Fast Flux Data
Reporting System should be explored, and it very well might be implemented
via Consensus Policy.
 
 -- The next clause says the "Group has developed and broadly supports
recommendations for best practices." That is not true, as we haven't
recommended any specific best practices.
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
 Mike Rodenbaugh
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 +1.415.738.8087
 www.rodenbaugh.com 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: owner-gnso-ff-pdp-may08@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-ff-pdp-may08@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James M. Bladel
 Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 7:31 AM
 To: Fast Flux Fast Flux
 Subject: [gnso-ff-pdp-may08] Final Report: Last Call for Edits
 
 Team:
 
 With tomorrow's deadline approaching, please take a last moment to review
the Draft Final Report (wiki link below) and Draft Council Motion
(attached). 
 
 https://st.icann.org/pdp-wg-ff/index.cgi
 
 The final document will be closed for edits as of end of day WEDNESDAY,
 5 AUG 2009.
 
 Thank you,
 
 J.
 
 
 
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