[gnso-idn-wg] Fwd: [gnso-rn-wg] Tagged Names Report for Review & Approval in 5 March Meeting
Dear Ram and All,
I have sent this to Chuck and the RN-WG, as my own views on a fix to be made on the Tagged Name report. It appears that I did not get my point across from the point I have raised below and /or my explanations to the group.
Therefore, Chuck has suggested to share it with the IDN WG and see if there could be further, perhaps better examples.
There are two issues here: 1- Is there an issue 2- What are the risks if we do not address the issue.
Pease note cc-- is (character, character --).
Thank you ahead, Sophia
I know I joined the WG later, and trying to get caught up with all the reports and the "Tagged name' was one that was NOT the easiest to grasp. Additionally, I decided to start from your report to "questions for the IDN Experts" last week, with one that you had marked as "no questions"; one being the same report. ** *C. Tagged Domain Names.* **All labels with hyphens in the *third and fourth* character positions (e.g., "bq--1k2n4h4b" or "xn--ndk061n"). · No questions
In any case, I am not at all an IDN expert, but after much interpretations, translation/transliteration of this report;), I think we have a bit of a 'big miss' on the IDN side of the Tagged Names report. I am not to say, as usual that the document is very ASCII centric, but it is to be expected in the 'ICANN" world which might be a good idea to reserve "ICANN' IDN version with is labeling, so that the non-ascii world could state their opinion (that was the humor).
But on the serious side, these are my comments:
I agree that CC-- reservation should apply to all levels.
However, IDNs in Unicode are going to be deployed at TLD level and other levels subsequent to the TLD. Such registrations at the registry levels are represented in ASCII using an ASCII Compatible Encoding, that maps the IDN label into ASCII prefixed by xn-- (or any future changes of two alternative characters followed by two hyphens, as has happened in the past, e.g. bq--). All registrations should be in the IDN label, and that the ACE label should be internal to the operations of the registration. *One should not be offering to register xn--.... as a label or any ACE label since it is an internal encoding, so as to prevent confusion and other malfeasance (phishing)*. Moreover, any IDNs that look like xn--... (or CC--.... for future changes) should not be allowed. This is because during the roll-out of the IDN deployments, xn-- may appear in Internet software applications which are not ACE/IDN-aware, and do not load the appropriate IDN label when it encounters xn-- prefix and by default, ends up displaying the xn-- ACE label.
Non-Internet Software applications may not necessarily be IDN-aware when users are attempting to convey addresses in IDN, and instead of displaying http://IDN.IDN.IDN <http://idn.idn.idn/> (URLs) or UUUU@xxxxxxx (email address) in the language it is supposed to represent, ends up writing http://xn--ASCII.xn--ASCII.xn--ASCII or UUUU@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Therefore, the modalities of you want to re-phrase the above could be left for the group to figue out, ie. " All labels with hyphens in the *third and fourth* character positions (e.g., "bq--1k2n4h4b" or "xn--ndk061n" ) to add perhaps a statement "only when "--" is preceded by xn and bq anywhere in the character ...."
kind regards, Sophia -------------------------
On 02/03/07, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: