AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI meeting agenda

[<KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>]

We should follow-up on this with agenda item 6 on Sunday


Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Avri Doria
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2012 18:45
An: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
Betreff: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI meeting agenda


I think that it becomes a question for the g-council, becasue I think the 
language is rather clear.
Might as well get it resooolved before we have a SG/C request/issue to deal 
with.

I originally thought it was as Mary and Ron indicate,  but went back to the 
language to make sure.
That was when I discovered I was wrong.
Or at least I think I discovered that I was wrong,
Though perhaps I am wrong in thinking I was wrong.

So at least one thing I know for, at some point on this discussion, I am wrong 
- either before or now.
Good thing I don't mind being wrong.

avri


Ron Andruff <randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>Dear All,
>
>I'm in agreement with Mary on this one.  As noted in my previous email
>regarding the slides that W-U has prepared, the SCI has been
>established to
>smooth out those circumstances where the recommended policy/process
>needs
>some further refinement to be effective in practice.  Therefore it
>should
>not matter from which part of the community the request comes - other
>than
>from individuals - for the SCI to review an implementation process, in
>my
>view.
>
>Kind regards,
>
>RA
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx
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>Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI meeting agenda
>
>
>Actually, my recollection/impression was that when the SCI charter was
>drafted the phrase was intended to refer to SGs and Cs as well. Can
>staff or
>someone with a better memory than I recall one way or the other?
>
>Sent from a mobile device; please excuse brevity and any grammatical or
>typographical errors.
>
>"Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>I think that "a group chartered by the GNSO" must refer to a working
>group
>or other team with an adopted GNSO charter.  It does not appear to me
>on the
>surface that this phrase refers to a constituency.  I doubt SCI wants
>to
>become involved in taking direct requests from constituencies rather
>than
>from the GNSO directly or from working groups chartered by the GNSO
>which
>are composed of members from more than one constituency and/or
>stakeholder
>group.
>Anne
>
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>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
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>
>
>I think the initiative through ALAC-Alan (council liaison)-GNSO council
>would be what is covered by the rules.
>
>
>Best regards
>Wolf-Ulrich
>
>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Avri
>Doria
>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2012 16:33
>An: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>Betreff: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI meeting agenda
>
>
>Hi,
>
>Assuming none of the SG/Cs wish to take up the issue as their own (I
>have
>not consulted with mine yet), another possibility is that ALAC, using
>its
>liaison status with the g-council, bring up the issue of SOI (CoI) with
>the
>g-council itself. The g-council could then send the issue to the SCI,
>ignore
>it, or find some other approach. Alternatively, ALAC could request an
>issues
>report on the subject of SOI/CoI in GNSO policy making etc.
>
>One thing the GNSO should probably avoid, especially during this time
>of
>ICANN introspection concerning conflicts of interest, is ignoring the
>issue.
>
>But I agree we should handle this within the rules established by our
>charter.
>
>avri
>
>
>Krista Papac <Krista.Papac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>My initial reaction is we should stick with what's in the Charter and
>>take requests from the GNSO Council or a group chartered by the GNSO
>>Council.
>>
>>Krista Papac
>>General Manager, Policy & Industry Affairs AusRegistry Group Pty Ltd
>>Email:
>>krista.papac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:krista.papac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Web: www.ausregistry.com
>>
>>From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx
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>>Cc: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI meeting agenda
>>
>>The charter reads:
>><<For items that are submitted for review 'on request', the SCI
>expects
>>to receive detailed input from the group affected by the
>>process/operational change concerned. Such requests can be made by
>>either the GNSO Council or a group chartered by the GNSO Council.>>
>>
>>Request from individuals is not included.
>>
>>
>>
>>Best regards
>>Wolf-Ulrich
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>Von: Aikman-Scalese, Anne [mailto:AAikman@xxxxxxxxx]
>>Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2012 18:20
>>An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich;
>>marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>;
>>avri@xxxxxxx<mailto:avri@xxxxxxx>
>>Cc:
>>gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>Betreff: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI meeting agenda Does the
>>charter not define where the issues come from?  I would think it would
>
>>have to be limited by the charter.
>>Anne
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>>Subject: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI meeting agenda Personally my
>>first reaction would be: we should handle it practically and with
>>flexibility. Don't start amending the rules unless it is imperative.
>>Flexibility could mean that the SCI
>>- for a certain period of time (eg 1 year) monitors how many issues
>are
>>raised by individuals/groups not covered by the charter. In case it
>>exceeds a certain volume of requests (depending on the workload) the
>>SCI may strictly return to the rules as written and not accept further
>
>>requests from outside
>>- for the a.m. period of time the SCI may discuss all issues raised
>and
>>make recommendations/suggestions re the issues in scope
>>- re Evan's SOI related issue I recall - if I'm right - that he was
>>questioning the sense of some of the points asked for in the SOI. I
>>think we should first find out whether his issue was more ALAC
>specific
>>than relevant to the GNSO
>>
>>What do others mean?
>>
>>
>>Best regards
>>Wolf-Ulrich
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>Von: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx]
>>Gesendet: Montag, 18. Juni 2012 14:47
>>An: Avri Doria; Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich
>>Betreff: FW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI meeting agenda Hi Wolf, Avri,
>>
>>Under AOB, you might also want to cover the update to the GNSO Council
>
>>which is scheduled for Prague. In addition to getting clarification on
>
>>who should be responsible for putting out SCI recommendations for
>>public comments (also of relevance in relation to the item on
>consensus
>>items), there is also this issue with regard to who may raise issues
>>with the SCI. As you may recall, Evan Leibovitch raised a suggestion
>>with regard to the SOI. There may be other questions / suggestions
>that
>>individuals may make in the future relating to GNSO Improvements
>>topics. However, the SCI charter says 'requests can be made by either
>>the GNSO Council or a group chartered by the GNSO Council'. Should
>>individual requests be directed to the GNSO Council for referral, or
>>should there be another mechanism? It might be good to get
>>clarification on this as well so it can be made clear to those that
>>have proposals / questions.
>>
>>With best regards,
>>
>>Marika
>>
>>From: "KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>"
>><KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>To:
>>"gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>"
>><gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] SCI meeting agenda
>>
>>All:
>>
>>this is the suggested agenda for the SCI call on Monday June 18, 13:00
>>UTC:
>>
>>- Roll call
>>- Statement of Interests
>>- Approval of the agenda
>>- Background information (and suggested solutions) on
>>        - Deferral of Motions
>>        - Proxy Voting Procedure
>>        - Voting Thresholds for Delaying a PDP
>>- Consensus items: GNSO Council Voting Results Table, Consent Agenda
>>- AOB: next meeting, F2F in Prague?
>>
>>
>>Best regards
>>Wolf-Ulrich
>>
>>
>>
>>
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