Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Suspending a PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote

[<Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks, Marika - perhaps using the term "interim status report" conveys
more than I'd intended to suggest in supporting the concept. What I had
in mind was simply a statement from the Council when voting to suspend a
PDP, giving its reasons for so doing. The intention was to so notify the
community - incuding the ICANN Board in cases of Board-directed PDPs -
that such an action had been taken. As such, and instead of using the
term "interim status report" we could just say "a statement of reasons"
from the GNSO Council.  

Cheers 
Mary 



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>>> 


From:  
"Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman@xxxxxxxxx> 

To: 
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Date:  
12/16/2012 8:29 AM 

Subject:  
Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Suspending a PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote


Marika, I see the point of broader considerations but think the analogy
to a bandaid on an unmanifested wound is very poor. It's actually a bit
more like putting on a helmet before riding a bike. See you Monday at
the brunch and maybe we can talk further! Anne

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Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Suspending a PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote

 

All, it may be worth pointing out that for every PDP as well as
non-PDP, there are regular status updates already provided. For example,
the GNSO project list which is updated on a monthly basis (see
http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/pending-projects-list.pdf). Also, each
project has their own page on the GNSO web-site which is updated with
every milestone activity (see
http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/active-groups.htm). In
addition, each resolution that is adopted by the GNSO Council contains
the rationale for that decision in the 'whereas' clauses (see
http://gnso.icann.org/en/resolutions).  



It should also be noted that an 'interim status report' is currently
not defined in the PDP Manual (what would need to be in there, who is
responsible for preparing it, would it need to be adopted by a vote of
the GNSO Council?). Furthermore, in addition to the Board, ICANN
Advisory Committees can also request Issue Reports, but they have not
been considered in this conversation.  



As a result, I would really like to encourage the SCI to review this
issue in a broader context (if/when/how should PDP status updates be
provided to entities other than the GNSO Council during the lifespan of
a PDP, taking into account all the different communication tools already
in place) as part of the overall review of the PDP, instead of applying
a bandaid here to a wound that has not even manifested itself. 



Best regards, 



Marika 



From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Saturday 15 December 2012 18:58
To: "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx"
<gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>, "randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
<randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx"
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Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Suspending a PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote



Just a minor note that at this point we were not limiting the interim
status report to any "Board-directed PDP". I think the simplest add
would be to require an interim status report to the GNSO Council, e.g.
"all activities (other than an interim status report to the Council)
will halt." Then SCI could recommend that the interim status report be
published to the entire community. Anne

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Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Suspending a PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote

 

I support the concept of an interim report to be put out to the
community by the GNSO Council upon its suspension of a PDP; however, I'd
like to separate out our actual recommendation (which is to clarify what
and when there is considered to be a suspension of a PDP) with our
opinion as to either the GNSO Council's relationship with/reaction to
Board-directed PDPs or as to appropriate action by the Council in voting
for a suspension.

I'd therefore suggest a slight modification to our Option 3 - take the
language/mention of an interim report out of the sentence containing our
recommendation, and either add a new sentence following that, or create
an additional, related recommendation, stating that "The SCI recommends
that, in cases of suspension of a Board-directed PDP, the GNSO Council
issues an interim report stating the reasons for such suspension to the
community." Or something along those lines.

Cheers
Mary



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Chair, Graduate IP Programs
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>>> "Ron Andruff" 12/14/12 3:13 PM >>>

Dear all, 
  
Recognizing that I am not yet installed as the Chair of the SCI until
our next meeting this coming Thursday (Dec. 20th), yet being responsible
for that meeting, (forgive me Wolf-Ulrich) I have two requests:  
  
(1) It would be very helpful if all SCI members would look at where we
are with the ?Suspending a PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote? and add your
thoughts.  The most recent exchanges on that thread are noted below.  It
appears that we have found a way forward, but this needs to be confirmed
by all members. 
  
(2) I would also ask everyone to take a few minutes to complete the
Survey that Julie sent around again today with her request that we all
fill it out and note our experience and thoughts about amendments.  She
has asked for this to be done by Wednesday, Dec. 19th, so please do take
a few minutes if you can spare them during this busy lead up to
Christmas so that we can have a productive discussion. 
  
Thank you all in advance for attending to these two outstanding items.

  
Kind regards, 
  
RA 
  

Ronald N. Andruff 
RNA Partners, Inc. 
  


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Aikman-Scalese, Anne
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Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Suspending a PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote 

  
Ron, I would certainly support that notion in the interest of
accountability and transparency. 

  

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Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Suspending a PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote 
Question for all re: an interim status report to the ICANN Board   
  
If I understand Anne?s line of thinking, the concern is about how to
deal specifically with Board requested PDPs that are suspended. 
However, option 3 sounds like we are recommending that the Board receive
an interim report whether they have initiated the PDP or not.  This is a
significant change and would only add more to the Board?s already full
plate, in my view. 
  
That said, in circumstance where a suspension has been called for, I do
see the merit of requesting that Council generate an interim report and
post it to inform the entire community of the suspension and reason(s)
for which it was suspended.  That would be quite logical in the larger
scheme of things. 
  
Anne, please correct me if I am wrong. 
  
Kind regards, 
  
RA 
  

Ronald N. Andruff 
RNA Partners, Inc. 
  
  


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Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Suspending a PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote 

  
I would propose a third option: 
3.  Suspension is a STATED time interval during which there is a
temporary cessation of the PDP, i.e. all activities (other than an
interim status report to the ICANN Board) are halted upon a decision of
the GNSO Council until further notice. A mere change in milestones or
schedule of the PDP is not considered a suspension.     
  

  

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Subject: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Suspending a PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote 
All, 
  
from the list I did not understand a clear objection against sending
the draft motion to the council with the option of withdrawing it if
there can't be found SCI consensus. So I took this responsibility and
did it to preserve this chance. 
  
I'd like to encourage all of us to continue working at a solution re
the footnote. 2 suggestions are at the table: 
1.       Suspension is a STATED time interval during which there is a
temporary cessation of the PDP, i.e. all activities are halted upon a
decision of the GNSO Council until further notice. A mere change in
milestones or schedule of the PDP is not considered a suspension. 
  

Suspension is a STATEDtime interval during which there is a temporary
cessation of the PDP, i.e. all activities are halted upon a decision of
the GNSO Council, subject to ICANN Board review in those cases where the
Board has requested GNSO input. A mere change in milestones or schedule
of the PDP is not considered a suspension. 
3.  Suspension is a STATED time interval during which there is a
temporary cessation of the PDP, i.e. all activities (other than an
interim status report to the ICANN Board) are halted upon a decision of
the GNSO Council until further notice. A mere change in milestones or
schedule of the PDP is not considered a suspension.     
  
  

Please comment. 

  

I wonder what how to proceed if there will be no consensus found at
thew time being. On the one hand I've got the impression that a majority
would be satisfied with suggestion #1 but also open to find a solution
which doesn't cause the need for another public comment period. 

In case of no consensus we could also - as we did with other items
discussed at the SCI - report to the council where we are, that there
has been a public comment period successfully finished, but there are
still concerns which would prevent the SCI from consensus. The council
may then decide how to deal with the (publicly commented) text. 

  

I would be thankful hearing your assessment on and under which
conditions consensus could still be achieved. 

Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich  


  

Von: Aikman-Scalese, Anne [mailto:AAikman@xxxxxxxxx]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2012 03:13
An: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx; Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich
Betreff: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Suspending a PDP--Proposed Revised
Footnote 
I do not believe that this "negative response" mechanism is in
accordance with the full consensus process. I also believe I spoke
against this at the last reading. Anne

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Footnote 

All, 
  

per its charter, the SCI is expected to take decisions using a 'full
consensus' process ("when no one in the group speaks against the
recommendation in its last readings"). 

Obviously it would be ideal if all members support a certain position.


  

It would also be ideal if we find consensus today which is the deadline
for motions before the next counciil meeting. But in order to reduce
time pressure I could imagine the option to submit the draft motion
today, noting that there are some issues that are still being discussed
by the SCI which may result in withdrawal of the motion and agenda item
if no agreement can be found. 

  

If there is no objection I'll do so accordingly at the end of the day.


  

Thanks for this valuable discussion and for your understanding. 

  

Best regards 

  

Wolf-Ulrich 

  

  





  

From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>, "KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx"
<KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "AAikman@xxxxxxxxx" <AAikman@xxxxxxxxx>, "avri@xxxxxxx"
<avri@xxxxxxx>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx"
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Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a
PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote 

  

Alain, 

  

One consideration is that if we add that language it is a substantive
change from the original footnote text.  The previous suggestion ?
adding the word "stated" and deleting "until further notice" --- was
deemed by the SCI to be a minor clarification and thus didn't require us
to open a Public Comment Forum on new language.  As discussed during
last Thursday's meeting, any substantive change to the text that was
presented in the public comment period that just ended on 03 December
would require that the revised text go out for public comment again at a
minimum of 21 days.  Staff pointed out that with the holiday we would
probably need a longer period, perhaps 30 days. 

  

With best regards, 

  

Julie 

  

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director 

  

From: Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:41 PM
To: Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "AAikman@xxxxxxxxx" <AAikman@xxxxxxxxx>, "avri@xxxxxxx"
<avri@xxxxxxx>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx"
<gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a
PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote 

  

Can we simply insert that: ... when judged necessary by the Council,
the GNSO Chair can clarify with the Board any required change in scope,
timing, and priority...  

  

Alain 

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:27 PM, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

We all stick to find consensus. I didn't want to suppress any
discussion, just bring it to the point.

First the wording must be accepted by all of us, then the procedure
should be agreed.

Anne, do you have a suggestion for the wording which could incorporate
the concern? Or do others have? 



Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich


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Aikman-Scalese, Anne
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Dezember 2012 17:45
An: 'Avri Doria'; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx 

Betreff: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a
PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote


Avri, thanks for sticking up for the process of consensus.  I don't
think we are unanimous.
Anne


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Hi,

Are we unanimous on this issue?  I had the impression Anne was still
concerned.

avri

On 11 Dec 2012, at 14:28, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Thanks Marika for clarification.
>
> I'll forward the motion (clear) attached with the revised footnote
(redline) to the council list by tomorrows deadline for the 20 Dec
council meeting.
>
>
> Best regards
> Wolf-Ulrich
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Dezember 2012 10:52
> An: Aikman-Scalese, Anne; Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; avri@xxxxxxx;
> gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
> Betreff: Re: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a
> PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote
>
> Anne, Staff typically provides the Board with status updates on
issues
> that are of significant interest to the Board, but there are also
> examples of direct communication between the GNSO Council and the
> Board after the GNSO Council decided to terminate a PDP that had
been
> initiated to provide input to the ICANN Board (see for example the
Vertical Integration PDP:
> http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg09754.html).
> It is then up to the Board to decide how to proceed. For example, in
> the case of vertical integration, the Board made the following
> decision, absent GNSO Council recommendations:
>
http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-09nov10-en.htm.
>
> With best regards,
>
> Marika
>
> On 10/12/12 19:19, "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Many thanks, Marika - very helpful.  Whether or not the Board calls
>> its questions a "Request for an Issue Report" that then results in
>> initiation of a PDP seems less important substantively than the
>> reference to continuing consultation with the Board as to  "scope,
>> timing, and priority". This discussion illustrates why I think
there
>> has to be some provision for communication with or involvement of
the
>> Board in connection with a GNSO vote to suspend a PDP which is
>> commenced as a result of a Board request for "answers" or for an
>> Issue Report. A unilateral suspension by GNSO of a PDP (even on
>> Supermajority vote) where the PDP was initiated as a result of such
a
>> Board request, is problematic if the Board needs to act. Is there a
>> provision for providing the Board with a full report as to the
status
>> of the PDP and maybe summarizing the differing opinions expressed
>> where no consensus was reached in the event of termination or
>> suspension?  We should not leave the Board in the position where it
>> has to say, "We cannot act because the GNSO has not acted and has
not
>> answered our questions."  This is particularly unsatisfactory where
the GAC has asked the Board to address an issue.
>> Anne
>>
>>
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>> Subject: Re: AW: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a
>> PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote
>>
>> To clarify, there are currently two Board requested PDPs, one on
the
>> RAA ('Resolved (2011.10.28.33), the Board also requests the
creation
>> of an Issue Report to undertake a GNSO policy development process
>> (PDP) as quickly as possible to address remaining items suited for
a
>> PDP) and the recently requested Issue Report on the purpose of
Whois
>> ('hereby directs preparation of an Issue Report on the purpose of
>> collecting and maintaining gTLD registration data, and on solutions
>> to improve accuracy and access to gTLD registration data, as part
of
>> a Board-initiated GNSO policy development process'). As pointed out
>> by Avri, for PDPs initiated by the ICANN Board, there is no
>> intermediate vote by the GNSO Council, the PDP automatically
>> proceeds. However, the ICANN Bylaws foresee that in the case of a
>> Board initiated PDP, 'the Board should provide a mechanism by which
>> the GNSO  Council can consult with the Board to provide information
>> on the scope, timing, and priority of the request for an Issue
>> Report'. In addition to this mechanism, the ICANN Board and GNSO
>> Council meet at every ICANN meeting where there is another
>> opportunity to discuss and/or express concerns with regard to Board
>> requested PDPs. For example, in relation to the RAA PDP, as a
result
>> of dialogue between the ICANN Board and GNSO Council it was agreed
to
>> 'suspend' the PDP until the RAA negotiations were near completion so
that it would be clear which topics would need to be included in the
PDP.
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> Marika
>>
>> On 09/12/12 08:12, "KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx" <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Avri, very helpful for understanding.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Wolf-Ulrich
>>>
>>>
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>>> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Avri
>>> Doria
>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 9. Dezember 2012 05:39
>>> An: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Betreff: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a
>>> PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As I understand it, they have asked g-council for answers, but
they
>>> have not actually used the by-laws mechanism of requesting a PDP.
>>> The g-council has used the PDP as a method of deciding on answers.
>>> These are still g-council initiated PDPs.  Had the Board asked for
>>> the PDP, there never would have been a vote in g-council to
initiate the PDP.
>>> Specifically:
>>>
>>> "
>>> March 212 20120314-1
>>> Motion on the Initiation of a Policy Development Process (PDP) on
'thick'
>>> Whois
>>>
>>> Whereas the GNSO Council requested an Issue Report on 'thick'
Whois
>>> at its meeting on 22 September 2011
>>> (seehttp://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/#201109);
>>>
>>> ....
>>> "
>>>
>>> "
>>> November 2012 20121017-2
>>> Motion on the Initiation of a Policy Development Process on the
>>> Protection of Certain International Organization Names in all
GTLDs.
>>>
>>> Whereas the GNSO Council requested an Issue Report on the topic of
>>> whether ICANN should approve additional protections for the names
of
>>> international organizations at the first and second levels in the
>>> New gTLD Program.
>>>
>>> ....
>>> "
>>>
>>> Under the by-laws, ANNEX A: GNSO POLICY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS
>>>
>>> "
>>> Section 3. Requesting an Issue Report
>>>
>>> Board Request. The Board may request an Issue Report by
instructing
>>> the GNSO Council ("Council") to begin the process outlined the PDP
Manual.
>>> In the event the Board makes a request for an Issue Report, the
>>> Board should provide a mechanism by which the GNSO Council can
>>> consult with the Board to provide information on the scope,
timing,
>>> and priority of the request for an Issue Report.
>>>
>>> ....
>>>
>>> Section 5. Initiation of the PDP
>>>
>>> The Council may initiate the PDP as follows:
>>>
>>> Board Request: If the Board requested an Issue Report, the
Council,
>>> within the timeframe set forth in thePDP Manual, shall initiate a
PDP.
>>> No vote is required for such action.
>>> "
>>>
>>> avri
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 Dec 2012, at 03:20, Aikman-Scalese, Anne wrote:
>>>
>>>> Must be my misunderstanding... I thought both the current whois
PDP
>>>> and IOC RC NGO PDP were requested by the ICANN Board. Anne
>>>>
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ron Andruff [randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> Received: Saturday, 08 Dec 2012, 3:06pm
>>>> To: 'Avri Doria' [avri@xxxxxxx]; gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> [gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx]
>>>> Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a
>>>> PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I support Avri's comments as well.  The Board's role is to commit
>>>> policy  that has been developed through the bottom up process
into
>>>> rule by way of  resolution.  Although the history of the Board's
>>>> actions to date might prove  otherwise, in an ever-maturing ICANN
>>>> environment we should expect the Board  to conform to ICANN's
basic
>>>> principles.
>>>>
>>>> I support the footnote amendment as proposed.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> RA
>>>>
>>>> Ronald N. Andruff
>>>> RNA Partners, Inc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Avri
>>>> Doria
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 9:47 AM
>>>> To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a
>>>> PDP--Proposed  Revised Footnote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I think the question of what the Board would do if g-council ever
>>>> suspended  a PDP that they mandated is an open question.  I
expect
>>>> they would either  wait, question the postponement, or make one
>>>> their preemptory decisions.
>>>> Since the Board has never yet, to my knowledge, mandated a PDP -
>>>> though they  can - I do not think it is a critical issue at this
>>>> point, and in any case  think it is a separate issue from the
>>>> suspension mechanism.  All other PDPs  are g-council decsions,
even
>>>> if the issues report is requested by one of the  ACs.
>>>>
>>>> I am fine with the footnote. thanks.
>>>>
>>>> avri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 Dec 2012, at 18:26, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
<KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anne and all,
>>>>>
>>>>> this touches the question whether the board may overrule a
council
>>>> decision on suspension because you're expressing an expectation
>>>> that the  council should follow a related board request. I think
>>>> this could be the  case depending on a council debate following
the
>>>> board request but there is  no obligation to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> With this understanding, an you agree to the footnote provided
by
>>>> Julie?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Wolf-Ulrich
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Von: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von
>>>> Aikman-Scalese, Anne
>>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. Dezember 2012 18:43
>>>>> An: 'J. Scott Evans'; Julie Hedlund;
>>>>> gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Betreff: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a
>>>> PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote
>>>>>
>>>>> This makes sense.  Is it clear to everyone that if the ICANN
Board
>>>> says,
>>>> "Sorry, GNSO, we don't want you to suspend because we need an
>>>> answer
>>>> - go  back to the drawing board,"  then that is what will happen?
>>>>>
>>>>> Deadlock is deadly for ICANN.  If GNSO can't work effectively
and
>>>>> the
>>>> Board has to act (pursuant to GAC Advice or otherwise), then
Fadi's
>>>> "oasis"
>>>> announced in Dubai becomes more of a "quagmire" and pressure
>>>> increases to  take control away from ICANN.
>>>>>
>>>>> I only raise this because it seems to me the question will come
up
>>>>> at
>>>> the
>>>> GNSO level.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anne
>>>>>
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>>>>> From: J. Scott Evans [mailto:jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 10:20 AM
>>>>> To: Julie Hedlund; Aikman-Scalese, Anne;
>>>> gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a
>>>> PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote
>>>>>
>>>>> I can live with that and I don't think this require further
public
>>>> comment
>>>> since it merely clarifies the suspension.
>>>>>
>>>>> jse
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>>>>>
>>>>> From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman@xxxxxxxxx>;
>>>> "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx"
<gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 8:40 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a
>>>> PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Anne.  Then, would you want "until further notice" to be
>>>> deleted?
>>>> If so, here's an amended text for all to review.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>> "Suspension is a STATED time interval during which there is a
>>>> temporary
>>>> cessation of the PDP, i.e. all activities are halted upon a
>>>> decision of the  GNSO Council. A mere change in milestones or
>>>> schedule of the PDP is not  considered a suspension."
>>>>>
>>>>> From: <Aikman-Scalese>, Anne <AAikman@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:32 PM
>>>>> To: "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx"
>>>> <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>,
>>>> Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a
>>>> PDP--Proposed Revised Footnote
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the relationship between "stated" and "until further
notice"?
>>>> If
>>>> "stated" applies, then it seems that "until further notice" would
>>>> not apply.
>>>> Anne
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com)
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Julie Hedlund [julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> Received: Thursday, 06 Dec 2012, 2:15pm
>>>>> To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Suspending a
>>>> PDP--Proposed
>>>> Revised Footnote
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear SCI members,
>>>>>
>>>>> As we discussed on today's call, J. Scott has proposed a
>>>> clarification to
>>>> the footnote text for the PDP Manual, Section 15, on Suspending a
PDP.
>>>> Please review the revised following text with the change in bold
>>>> all
>>>> caps:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Suspension is a STATED time interval during which there is a
>>>> temporary
>>>> cessation of the PDP, i.e. all activities are halted upon a
>>>> decision of the  GNSO Council until further notice. A mere change
>>>> in milestones or schedule  of the PDP is not considered a
suspension."
>>>>>
>>>>> For reference, I have included the entire section below so that
>>>>> the
>>>> footnote may be viewed in context.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was suggested on the call that if this clarification is
>>>>> accepted
>>>> by the
>>>> SCI members it will not require a new public comment period.
>>>>>
>>>>> **Please send any comments by COB Monday, 10 December so that if
>>>>> the
>>>> SCI
>>>> decides to submit a motion it may do so by the deadline of
>>>> Wednesday,
>>>> 12
>>>> December.**
>>>>>
>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
>>>>>
>>>>> 15.    Termination of PDP prior to Final Report
>>>>>
>>>>> The GNSO Council may terminate or suspend[1] a PDP prior to the
>>>> publication of a Final Report only for significant cause, upon a
>>>> motion that  passes with a Supermajority Vote in favour of
>>>> termination orsuspension.
>>>> The
>>>> following are illustrative examples of possible reasons for a
>>>> premature  termination or suspension of a PDP:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.     Deadlock. The PDP Team is hopelessly deadlocked and unable
to
>>>> identify recommendations or statements that have either the
strong
>>>> support  or a consensus of its members despite significant time
and
>>>> resources being  dedicated to the PDP;
>>>>> 2.     Changing Circumstances. Events have occurred since the
>>>> initiation
>>>> of the PDP that have rendered the PDP moot, or no longer
necessary;
>>>> or  warranting a suspension; or
>>>>> 3.     Lack of Community Volunteers. Despite several calls for
>>>> participation, the work of the PDP Team issignificantly impaired
>>>> and unable  to effectively conclude its deliberations due to lack
>>>> of volunteer  participation.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there is no recommendation from the PDP Team for its
>>>>> termination,
>>>> the
>>>> Council is required to conduct a public comment forum first prior
>>>> to conducting a vote on the termination of the PDP (as described
above).
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] Suspension is a STATED time interval during which there is a
>>>> temporary
>>>> cessation of the PDP, i.e. all activities are halted upon a
>>>> decision of the  GNSO Council until furthernotice. A mere change
in
>>>> milestones or schedule of  the PDP is not considered a
suspension.
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