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Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW(2): Chair/Vice-Chair Procedures

  • To: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW(2): Chair/Vice-Chair Procedures
  • From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 14:08:58 +0000

Hi Amr,

 

Thank you very much for your helpful comments.  We are glad that you agree the 
language is an improvement.

 

Kind regards,

Julie

 

From: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, May 23, 2016 at 8:48 AM
To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW(2): Chair/Vice-Chair Procedures

 

Hi,

 

This sounds better to me. I had also considered suggesting this change when I 
introduced the bracketed text, but didn’t want to confuse anyone, and figured 
using consistent language at the time was clearer (since “the vacant House” was 
already in the text at the time).

 

Thanks.

 

Amr

 

On May 20, 2016, at 8:33 PM, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

Dear SCI members,

 

Mary and I have a minor suggested change for your consideration: For the 
sentences in sections 2.2.1(1) and 2.2.1(2) instead of “the vacant House” we 
suggest that it might be more clear to say, “the House with the vacant 
Vice-Chair position”.

 

Kind regards,

Julie

 

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

 

From: <owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Julie Hedlund 
<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 at 9:42 AM
To: "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW(2): Chair/Vice-Chair Procedures

 

Dear SCI members,

 

Please see the attached second revision of the Chair/Vice Chair Procedures for 
your review based on the discussion during yesterday’s SCI call.  Per the 
actions items from the call the second revision contains the following changes:

 

1.      Revised the following sentence in sections 2.2.1(1) and 2.2.1(2) to 
include the bracketed text: “The deadline for the vacant House to designate its 
Interim Vice Chair is [no later than 23h59 Coordinate Universal Time (UTC)] 14 
calendar days following the Council meeting at which no Chair was conclusively 
elected.”

2.      Change the title of the table to “Chair Election Timeline” and include 
the suggested changes from Wolf-Ulrich in the table as follows: The date for 
the NomCom selectees announcement should also apply for the announcement of new 
councilors sent by the SGs/Cs.  Changed the title of the third column to “time 
available”, and changed the time available for candidates to submit statements 
to 12 days.

 

Please send any comments or edits to the list and we will hope to finalize 
these procedures by the next SCI call on 02 June.

 

Kind regards,

Julie

 

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

 

From: <owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Julie Hedlund 
<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 at 9:12 AM
To: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@xxxxxxxxxxx>, 
"gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Chair Vice-Chair Procedures

 

Dear Wolf-Ulrich,

 

Thank you very much for your helpful edits.  I’ll include them in the revised 
version of the document that I will send out later today.

 

Kind regards,

Julie

 

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

 

From: <owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx> on behalf of WUKnoben 
<wolf-ulrich.knoben@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 5:27 PM
To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx" 
<gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Chair Vice-Chair Procedures

 

All,

 

following the SCI call I’ve slightly revised the election table (see attached). 
I think the date for the NomCom selectees announcement should also apply for 
the announcement of new councillors sent by the SGs/Cs.


Best regards

Wolf-Ulrich

 

From: Julie Hedlund 

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 6:47 PM

To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx 

Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] FOR REVIEW: Chair Vice-Chair Procedures

 

Dear SCI members,

 

Per the action items below from our meeting on 05 May, Mary and I have drafted 
the attached revised procedures on Chair/Vice-Chair Elections that are proposed 
to be included in Section 2.2 of the GNSO Operating Procedures.  Many thanks to 
Amr for his suggestion below concerning additional language, which we have 
included in brackets.

 

Please provide any comments on the list, and we can also discuss the proposed 
language during the SCI call on Thursday, 19 May, at our usual time of 1800 UTC.

 

Kind regards,

Julie

 

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

 

From: <owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Julie Hedlund 
<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:59 AM
To: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Actions: SCI Meeting 05 May 2016

 

Hi Amr,

 

Thank you for your helpful comments and the suggested language for Scenarios 2 
and 3.  When staff send around the revised Operating Procedures with the 
Section 2.2 new language, we’ll include your suggestion in brackets.

 

Kind regards,

Julie

 

Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

 

From: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 11:26 AM
To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-improvem-impl-sc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Actions: SCI Meeting 05 May 2016

 

Hi,

 

On May 5, 2016, at 11:18 PM, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

[SNIP]

 

ACTION ITEMS:

 

Chair/Vice Chair Elections: 
Staff will produce a revision of Section 2.2 of the GNSO Operating Procedures 
(Officer Elections: Chair/Vice-Chair Elections) based on the final proposed 
language below.  
SCI members will review the revision on the list and finalize it no later than 
at the 19 May meeting.  
Staff will submit the final revision for a Consensus Call for two weeks (19 May 
to 02 June).  
Once the Consensus Call is completed Amr Elsadr, as the SCI Liaison to the GNSO 
Council, will send an update to the Council on its list for possible discussion 
in Helsinki.
These all seem good to me, but I have a suggestion for some additional language 
that I will explain below. I don’t know if this should be included in the 
section 2.2 revision, or not.







Discussion re: Public Comment on Proposed Revisions:

 

SCI members should review and discuss on the list whether to initiate a 40-day 
public comment period only on the revisions to the GNSO Operating Procedures 
relating to motions and amendments, but to wait to submit a complete set of 
revisions for GNSO Council approval once a separate 40-day public comment 
process on revisions relating to Chair/Vice Chair elections is completed.  
Staff notes that until the revised version of the GNSO Operating Procedures is 
published, the GNSO Council will follow their current informal process relating 
to motions and amendments.  The only change from the current process in the 
revision to the Operating Procedures is that discussion and voting on the 
motion at the Council meeting cannot proceed without a second (current informal 
process allows for discussion, but not voting, on a motion without a second).

 

I agree with the explanation of where things currently stand here, so see no 
urgency in producing an earlier and separate public comment period for the 
changes that the SCI is recommending to guidelines on motions/amendments. If 
the SCI had recommended changes to the current informal practice, then there 
might have been a reason to try to get this done more quickly. However, since 
the SCI hasn’t suggested any significant changes, delaying this in order to 
package it with the Council elections topic shouldn’t have any impact on 
Council business.







Chair/Vice Chair Elections Final Proposed Language:

 

ISSUE 1: Must the GNSO Chair be a continuing (not new/incoming) Councilor? 
Should new/incoming Councilors be eligible to stand for election?

See Section 2.2(b), which provides that a candidate for GNSO Chair “does not 
need to be a member of a house, but must be a member of the GNSO Council.” With 
the ICANN Bylaws prescribing that a Council member’s term begins and ends at 
the conclusion of an ICANN annual general meeting, Section 2.2(b) as phrased 
would seem to limit candidates for the Chair to only incumbent, continuing 
Council members.

Final Proposed Language: "A candidate for GNSO Council Chair does not need to 
be a member of a house, but must be a [continuing or incoming] member of the 
GNSO Council."  (Change to the GNSO Operating Procedures in brackets.)

 

ISSUE 2: Scenarios relating to the gap to be addressed when the Vice Chairs' 
terms end at the same time as that of the Chair, and no Chair is conclusively 
elected by that time.

 

SCENARIO 1: A new GNSO Council Chair is not elected, but both Vice Chairs are 
continuing on the Council.

Final Proposed Language: “In the case where no Chair is conclusively elected, 
the two Vice Chairs shall jointly oversee the Chair election and conduct 
Council business until such time as a new Chair is elected.”

SCENARIO 2: A new GNSO Council Chair is not elected, but one Vice Chair is 
continuing on the Council, while the other Vice Chair’s term on the Council is 
ending. 

Final Proposed Language: “In the case where one of Vice-Chair's terms on the 
Council ends at the same time as the Chair, and no Chair is conclusively 
elected, the House with a vacant Vice-Chair position shall designate an Interim 
Vice Chair from within this House to join the continuing Vice Chair to oversee 
the Chair election and conduct Council business.  The deadline for the vacant 
House to designate its Interim Vice Chair is 14 calendar days following the 
Council meeting at which no Chair was conclusively elected.”

 

I’m wondering if this language may seem ambiguous to some readers, or possibly 
even lead to a misunderstanding in the future. One could possibly interpret it 
to mean that if the house that needs to appoint an interim vice-chair fails to 
do so within 14 days, then the process would be required to proceed to scenario 
3…, or more likely scenario 4. I wonder if it would be helpful to add a 
sentence at the end like this: “Should the vacant House fail to appoint an 
interim Vice-Chair within the allotted time period, the continuing Vice-Chair 
from the other House will serve as an Interim Vice-Chair alone until a Council 
Chair is elected.”







SCENARIO 3: A new GNSO Council Chair is not elected in the first round, and 
neither of the two Vice Chairs is continuing on the Council. 

Final Proposed Language: “In the case where both Vice-Chairs’ terms on the 
Council end at the same time as the Chair, and no Chair is conclusively 
elected, this procedure would apply: Each House should designate a new or 
continuing Councilor from within its respective House, to temporarily fill the 
role of Vice Chair on an interim basis, not as an elected Vice Chair. The 
deadline for each House to designate its Interim Vice Chair is 14 calendar days 
following the Council meeting at which no Chair was conclusively elected. The 
Designated Interim Vice Chairs will co-chair the Chair election and conduct 
Council business until such time as a Chair is conclusively elected. Once the 
election is completed their service in those roles would end. Candidates for 
Chair will not be eligible to serve as Designated Interim Vice Chairs, to avoid 
potential conflicts of interest. However, Interim Vice Chairs are not 
prohibited from being appointed as continuing Vice Chairs by their respective 
Houses following a successful Chair election.”

 

Again, we may need the language to be specific on that one House appointing an 
interim vice-chair is enough not to proceed to scenario 4.







SCENARIO 4: A new GNSO Council Chair is not elected, neither of the two Vice 
Chairs is continuing on the Council, and the Houses do not designate Interim 
Vice Chairs. 

Final Proposed Language: “If both Houses should fail to temporarily fill the 
role of Vice Chair on an interim basis, the non-voting NCA will be designated 
Interim Chair to oversee the election and conduct Council business until such 
time as a Chair is conclusively elected. The deadline for each House to 
designate its Interim Vice Chair is 14 calendar days following the Council 
meeting at which no Chair was conclusively elected."

 

Lets hope it never comes to this!! :) 

 

Thanks.

 

Amr

 

 

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