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Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] Re: Summing up Option 7
- To: Jim Bikoff <jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx>, Chuck Gomes <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jeff Neuman <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] Re: Summing up Option 7
- From: Konstantinos Komaitis <k.komaitis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:41:12 +0000
All,
This note is on my personal capacity rather than that of NCUC or NCSG.
A couple of thoughts that I think are relevant in our discussions. First I
think that it is not wise to start referring to national legislation as this is
not very helpful in this context – the only legal instruments we really should
be looking at in determining the types of protection for those names are the
international ones. However, because there was some reference to the Greek law
2598/1998, this law seeks to protect the commercial use of the mark (as
reflected in the Nairobi Treaty) and any use of the mark along with the term
"Athens 2004". When paragraph 7 talks about domain names, it refers to domain
names incorporating the mark along with the term "Athens 2004".
"7. The name and the distinctive title of the Company, established in the
article 2 of the present Law, and its subsidiaries, and especially the terms
“Athens 2004”, “Olympic Games - Athens 2004”, “Olympic Games 2004”, “Olympic
Games-Greece” and any other relevant terms in Greek or any language, are under
the protection of the present article. The relevant prohibition is also
extended in the use of these terms as domain names on the internet."
The second point is that it is the commercial use of these marks that is
prohibited, a point which is also crucial. Are we therefore suggesting that if
a Greek community wanted to register a name for community purposes or
non-commercial ones they would still have to have an authorization from the
IOC? This is unreasonable and we need to be cautious as to the kind of powers
we are granting here and the extent of protection we are willing to provide. A
community should be allowed to register the term even if IOC for instance
decides not to, as long as it does not seek to infringe upon the Olympic mark
as reflected in the Nairobi Treaty.
I would also like to draw your attention to the various international
conventions on the protection of Greece's cultural heritage by UNESCO.
Thanks
Konstantinos
--
Dr. Konstantinos Komaitis,
Senior Lecturer in Law,
Director of LLM in Information Technology and Telems. Law,
Director of Postgraduate Instructional Courses,
ICANN NCUC Chair
University of Strathclyde,
Graham Hills Bld.
50 George Street,
Glasgow, G1 1BA,
UK
tel: +44 (0)141 548 4306
email: k.komaitis@xxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Jim Bikoff <jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx>>
Reply-To: Jim Bikoff <jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 01:21:31 +0000
To: Chuck Gomes <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>, Jeff Neuman
<Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>>,
"gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>"
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Subject: [gnso-iocrc-dt] Re: Summing up Option 7
Chuck, I am suggesting that. The protection granted we believe applies to
identical matches whether or not the names are registered by the protected
entities.
Best,
Jim
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From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:58:10 +0000
To: Jim Bikoff<jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx>>; Neuman, Jeff
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Subject: RE: Summing up Option 7
I have one question Jim: Are you suggesting that an exact match of one of the
names should not be allowed to be registered by another entity even if the RC
or IOC does not elect to register the names?
Chuck
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:22 PM
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Subject: [gnso-iocrc-dt] Summing up Option 7
Jeff,
This note, like yours, is made not as an IPC member, but rather in my
individual capacity.
This note includes the Olympic and Red Cross terms, although we understand that
the IRC will submit its own comments on the options.
The first parts of Option 7 look appropriate as you have summarized them, i.e.:
"Option 7: Treat the terms set forth in Section 2.2.1.2.3 as “modified
reserved names” meaning:
a) The names are available as gTLD strings to the International
Olympic Committee, International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement, as
applicable.
b) Applied-for gTLD strings are reviewed during the String Similarity
review to determine whether they are similar to those in Section 2.2.1.2.3. An
application for a gTLD
string that is identified as too similar to a Reserved Name will
not pass this initial review."
In section c), the core issue is, if an application fails to pass initial
string similarity review, what standard should be used for an applicant to try
to overcome the adverse review? I suggest:
(1) If the applied-for TLD matches any of the terms in 2.2.1.2.3 (e.g.,
".Olympic" or ".RedCross"), it cannot be registered by anyone other than the
IOC/RC.
(2) If the applied-for TLD is not identical to any of the terms in
2.2.1.2.3, but fails initial string similarity review with one of those
protected terms, the applicant may attempt to:
(a) obtain a letter of non-objection from the IOC or Red Cross; or
(b) claim that it has a legitimate interest in the string; and
(c) explain why it believes that the new TLD is not confusingly
similar to one of the protected strings and makes evident that it does not
refer to the IOC, the Red Cross, or any Olympic or Red Cross activity.
(d) A determination in favor of the applicant under this
provision would not preclude the IOC, the Red Cross, or other interested
parties from bringing a legal rights objection or otherwise contesting the
determination.
{Explanation:
In (b), a claim of "legitimate interest" would encompass a broad range of
attempted justifications (including, as you have noted,"traditional knowledge
and cultural heritage,"), without unduly suggesting that the applicant has
"rights," or that the claim of legitimacy would prevail over the protected
terms. A showing of ordinary trademark rights would not typically suffice to
overcome the protections afforded the Olympic and Red Cross marks, because they
are afforded superior legislative protection that trumps ordinary trademark
rights. This was enunciated by the U.S. Supreme Court in San Francisco Arts &
Athletics v. United States Olympic Committee and International Olympic
Committee, 483 U.S. 522 (1987). See also the Greek Statute Article 3 Law
2598/1998, a translation of which is attached, reserving the right to use the
terms "Olympic" and "Olympiad" to the Olympic Committee.
In (c), by the same token, the IOC and Red Cross are afforded a high level of
statutory protection against dilution of their trademarks through use by
unauthorized parties, even in the absence of confusing similarity. See e.g.,
San Francisco Arts & Athletics, supra. So a showing that an applied-for TLD is
not confusingly similar to a protected string would not, standing alone,
overcome an initial refusal.
If, on the other hand, in an exceptional case, an applicant can demonstrate
that it has an established legitimate interest in its applied-for TLD string,
and that the TLD is not confusingly similar to one of the protected strings and
makes evident that it does not refer to the IOC, the Red Cross, or any Olympic
or Red Cross activity, then that might constitute an appropriate basis for an
appeal, to be considered on a case by case basis.
In (d), the provisions allowing an applicant to seek recourse from an adverse
initial string similarity review permit the applicant to express its claims
fully. These provisions should not be construed to imply that an applicant's
claims would necessarily prevail over the protected terms, nor should they be
construed to prejudice, restrict or diminish in any way the IOC 's, Red
Cross' or other interested parties' ability to enforce their legal rights and
contest an application.}
Best regards,
Jim
James L. Bikoff
Silverberg, Goldman & Bikoff, LLP
1101 30th Street, NW
Suite 120
Washington, DC 20007
Tel: 202-944-3303
Fax: 202-944-3306
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