Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: [council] FW: IOC/RC Drafting Team Status Report

[Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>]

Agree on both counts Chuck. My point here is that this is not something that 
has come out of the DT. This is a document that Jeff drafted in his own time, 
following a request from the GAC to have some supporting documentation.

To me, putting such a document out for public comment would be a step too far 
from standard procedure.

Stéphane



Le 29 févr. 2012 à 22:34, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :

> Moreover, it is not without precedent for WG’s to request comments on their 
> work before they are finished.
> 
> Chuck
> 
>  
> 
> From: owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 4:29 PM
> To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx GNSO
> Cc: gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: [council] FW: IOC/RC Drafting Team Status 
> Report
>  
> 
> Thanks for the clarification, Stephane - I'd asked precisely because it 
> occurred to me that having a formal public comment period for this report 
> would not be possible for a number of reasons. That said, and assuming the 
> Council will be asked to vote on one/some/all recommendation(s) in Costa 
> Rica, I can foresee problems ahead if, for instance, the Council votes then 
> to approve certain permanent protections for this and future gTLD rounds 
> based on recommendations made by other than a formal GNSO Working Group.
>  
> I would think that a few of my Council colleagues would either share my 
> concerns or have some of their own. If so, and assuming we agree that should 
> this topic come up for a vote in Costa Rica our normal deferral process would 
> be the worst thing we could do in terms of responsiveness to the GAC, then we 
> need to find ways to get feedback on the actual recommendation(s) from all 
> the community, in addition to input on the various options/issues they may 
> have already given to the DT during the discussion process.
>  
> Cheers
> Mary
> 
> 
> Mary W S Wong 
> Professor of Law 
> Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP 
> Chair, Graduate IP Programs 
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> From:
> Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
> To:
> "council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx GNSO" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> CC:
> <gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date:
> 2/29/2012 4:18 PM
> Subject:
> Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: [council] FW: IOC/RC Drafting Team Status Report
> There is no official comment period planned for this. This is an unofficial 
> report drafted by Jeff to help with an upcoming call, and not a document of 
> the DT.
>  
> It should therefore not be put out for public comment.
>  
> Stéphane
>  
>  
>  
> Le 29 févr. 2012 à 21:34, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :
>  
> Thanks Mary.  The document is “out for public comment” now.  I would love for 
> it to be formally out, but some may argue that takes an act of Council.  We 
> have a very limited time frame here and have had valuable input from each 
> constituency and stakeholder group already and continue to get more.
> 
> Can ICANN staff put this on their page?  Any help would be appreciated.    
>  
> Jeffrey J. Neuman 
> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
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>  
> Thanks, Jeff and everyone on the DT, for some marvelously quick and detailed 
> work, and for a very clear and concise report.
>  
> Question - will this be put out for "official" public comment? I ask partly 
> because of the possibility that the Council will be asked to vote on at least 
> some part of the report in Costa Rica, and also because the recommendations 
> pertain to protections that will also apply to future new gTLD rounds.
>  
> As many of you know, I definitely support a closer, better and more 
> responsive working relationship with the GAC; however, even leaving aside 
> issues with the process by which this particular issue came to the table and 
> has now to be resolved, I remain concerned about ad-hoc work under the 
> heading of "implementation" that isn't so much a natural follow-up to the 
> GNSO's own policy recommendations (i.e. in this case the 2007 report on new 
> gTLDs) but which could change or conflict with them. I know this issue was 
> raised during this particular DT's discussions, as was the issue of 
> precedent-setting, so I'm glad we're watchful for these risks. This might, 
> however, buttress the argument that at the very least, a public comment be 
> instituted prior to any vote/action.
>  
> Cheers
> Mary 
> 
> 
> Mary W S Wong 
> Professor of Law 
> Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP 
> Chair, Graduate IP Programs 
> UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH 
> 03301USAEmail: mary.wong@xxxxxxx.eduPhone: 
> 1-603-513-5143Webpage:http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected 
> writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: 
> http://ssrn.com/author=437584 
> As of August 30, 2010, Franklin Pierce Law Center has affiliated with the 
> University of New Hampshire and is now known as the University of New 
> Hampshire School of Law. Please note that all email addresses have changed 
> and now follow the convention:firstname.lastname@xxxxxxxxxxx. For more 
> information on the University of New Hampshire School of Law, please visit 
> law.unh.edu 
> 
> 
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> From:
> "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To:
> "council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx " <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> CC:
> "gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date:
> 2/28/2012 11:43 PM
> Subject:
> [council] FW: IOC/RC Drafting Team Status Report
> FYI.   Please circulate amongst your constituencies, stakeholder groups and 
> Advisory Committees.   
>  
> From: Neuman, Jeff
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:38 PM
> To: Heather.Dryden@xxxxxxxx; mark.carvell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
> SRadell@xxxxxxxxxxxx;stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben@xxxxxxxxxxx; Neuman, Jeff
> Subject: IOC/RC Drafting Team Status Report
>  
> Heather, Mark and Suzanne,
>  
> As promised, please find enclosed a status report from the Chair of the 
> IOC/RC Drafting Team of the GNSO Council that has been tasked with advising 
> the GNSO Council with respect to the September 2011 GAC proposal on 
> permanently protecting the Olympic and Red Cross names at the top and second 
> levels for new gTLDs.  Although this report was shared with the members of 
> the Drafting Team, it was drafted by me as the Chair, and as such is not an 
> official report from the Drafting Team.  It represents the Chair’s current 
> understanding of the discussions of the Drafting Team.  Each of the 
> recommendations addressed in this report are still under review by the GNSO 
> Community.  We are providing this report to assist in the discussions between 
> the Drafting Team, interested GNSO Councilors and GAC members on March 2, 
> 2012.
>  
> Please feel free to forward this report to the other members of the GAC as I 
> will be sending this to the GNSO Council as well.  We look forward to a 
> productive call this Friday as well as in Costa Rica at the ICANN meeting.   
>  
> Best regards,
>  
> Jeffrey J. Neuman
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