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AW: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: CALL CANCELLATION: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group

  • To: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine@xxxxxxxxx>, gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: AW: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: CALL CANCELLATION: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group
  • From: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <wolfgang.kleinwaechter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 17:55:01 +0200

Hu Jeff
my three cents:
1. you are right, we ghave to report fully to the GAC
2. you are right, it is in the hands of the GNSO Council to decide about the 
future of the group. 
3. In the last meeting we asked both the IOC and the RC to oprive addtional 
material like case studies on ongoing misuse of the name at the second level. 
It would be useful to have such material which would enabvle either the GNSO 
Council or any other body to make better fact based recommendations (if special 
recommendations which go beyond the existing protection mechanisms are needed 
at all).


Von: owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx im Auftrag von Neuman, Jeff
Gesendet: Mi 02.05.2012 17:11
An: Nathalie Peregrine; 'gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx'
Cc: gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx; Stéphane Van Gelder
Betreff: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: CALL CANCELLATION: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO 
issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names 
discussion group



I just wanted to drop a quick note explaining why I cancelled the call for 
today.  Over the past couple of weeks, there has been a lot of chatter in 
various groups about the dismantling of our drafting team for a variety of 
reasons ranging from the practical ("Lets wait until the PDP to restructure a 
group like this") to the cynical ("The Board rejected all of the Drafting Teams 
recommendations and there Is nothing left for the group to do").  Although the 
Drafting Team understands that the Board only dealt with the Top Level 
Recommendations and that the GAC Proposal to which we were responding has 
recommendations at the second level, there is still a lot of negative chatter 
out there calling for this group to be abandoned.  

The GNSO Council Call will address this issue next week and decide (hopefully) 
the future of this group.  Before that happens, however, I would like to know 
your thoughts on whether this Drafting Team should cease it operations.  From 
my own personal perspective (and not necessarily my SG), I believe that 
although we voted in favor of commencing  PDP on issues that are related to the 
IOC-RC proposals, the GNSO owes a response to the GAC on the GAC's September 
2011 proposal (the majority of which addresses proposed second level 
protections).  That proposal is now 8 months old and whether this Drafting Team 
helps with crafting that answer or not, the GNSO must provide a well-thought 
out and reasoned response.  I believe it would not be wise to ignore the 
proposal or to tell the GAC that we are going to wait for the issue report to 
be drafted and finalized by October and then decide whether to commence a PDP 
and then take a year or longer to provide the GNSO Council response (which 
could be 2-3 years after the initial proposal).  


In the end, it will not be me making this call, but rather the Council.  I 
believe your feedback will help inform the Council on what it should do next 
week.  If any of you have thoughts on this, I would be happy to present those 
thoughts to the Council next week.


I truly appreciate the work you all have done to and regardless of what 
ultimately happens, I believe the work has been beneficial to the GNSO 

Best regards, 




Jeffrey J. Neuman 
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs


From: owner-ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nathalie Peregrine
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 4:48 AM
To: ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt] CALL CANCELLATION: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO 
issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names 
discussion group


Dear All,


The next call for the GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic 
Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group initially scheduled for 
today  Wednesday 02 May 2012 at 1800 UTC has now been cancelled as per Jeff 

Details about possible future calls will follow shortly.


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