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RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: CALL CANCELLATION: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group

  • To: "'Thomas Rickert'" <rickert@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Neuman, Jeff'" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: CALL CANCELLATION: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group
  • From: "Joy Liddicoat" <joy@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 08:57:18 +1200

Hi Jeff and all,

Apologies for the delayed response, but I have been following the
discussion. I agree the DT needs to take a time out, so thanks for your
message and questions Jeff. 

The DT was a GNSO vehicle for providing advice to the Board. We have done
that at least in relation to the top level. Given the Board’s response, it
is time change tack - I’m not convinced our DT is the best way to keep
going.  The Council can formally respond to the GAC, but it does not need
the DT to do so. 

Documentation of the work to date and offering it up to any PDP process is a
better way forward imho.



From: owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Thomas Rickert
Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012 7:39 a.m.
To: Neuman, Jeff
Cc: Nathalie Peregrine; 'gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx'; gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx;
Stéphane Van Gelder
Subject: Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: CALL CANCELLATION: Meeting
Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC)
& Red Cross (RC) names discussion group


Jeff, all,

in my view, the work of the DT needs to continue. We owe the GAC a response
for the second level and additionally we should not make this new type of
collaboration between the GAC and the GNSO fail. 


I am also convinced that none of our efforts are waisted, but our findings
are also relevant in the course of the PDP.






Am 02.05.2012 um 17:11 schrieb Neuman, Jeff:



I just wanted to drop a quick note explaining why I cancelled the call for
today.  Over the past couple of weeks, there has been a lot of chatter in
various groups about the dismantling of our drafting team for a variety of
reasons ranging from the practical (“Lets wait until the PDP to restructure
a group like this”) to the cynical (“The Board rejected all of the Drafting
Teams recommendations and there Is nothing left for the group to do”).
Although the Drafting Team understands that the Board only dealt with the
Top Level Recommendations and that the GAC Proposal to which we were
responding has recommendations at the second level, there is still a lot of
negative chatter out there calling for this group to be abandoned.  

The GNSO Council Call will address this issue next week and decide
(hopefully) the future of this group.  Before that happens, however, I would
like to know your thoughts on whether this Drafting Team should cease it
operations.  From my own personal perspective (and not necessarily my SG), I
believe that although we voted in favor of commencing  PDP on issues that
are related to the IOC-RC proposals, the GNSO owes a response to the GAC on
the GAC’s September 2011 proposal (the majority of which addresses proposed
second level protections).  That proposal is now 8 months old and whether
this Drafting Team helps with crafting that answer or not, the GNSO must
provide a well-thought out and reasoned response.  I believe it would not be
wise to ignore the proposal or to tell the GAC that we are going to wait for
the issue report to be drafted and finalized by October and then decide
whether to commence a PDP and then take a year or longer to provide the GNSO
Council response (which could be 2-3 years after the initial proposal). 


In the end, it will not be me making this call, but rather the Council.  I
believe your feedback will help inform the Council on what it should do next
week.  If any of you have thoughts on this, I would be happy to present
those thoughts to the Council next week.


I truly appreciate the work you all have done to and regardless of what
ultimately happens, I believe the work has been beneficial to the GNSO

Best regards,




Jeffrey J. Neuman 
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs


From: owner-ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nathalie Peregrine
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 4:48 AM
To: ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt] CALL CANCELLATION: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO
issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC)
names discussion group


Dear All,


The next call for the GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic
Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group initially scheduled
for today  Wednesday 02 May 2012 at 1800 UTC has now been cancelled as per
Jeff Neuman.

Details about possible future calls will follow shortly.


11:00 PDT, 14:00 EDT,  19:00 London, 20:00 CET 


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