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Re: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Feedback on Charter Question E
- To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Feedback on Charter Question E
- From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:14:52 +0000
On 30 Aug 2010, at 19:57, James M. Bladel wrote:
> Agree. Locking a name when it is in a "steady state" is common among
> registrars, and considered a Best Practice against accidental or
> fraudulent changes or transfers. Having millions of domain
> registrations that are "unlocked" by default is a concerning prospect.
>
> Instead, I recommend we keep the focus on (1) registrant awareness of
> locks (no "double-secret" locks) and (2) their ability to expressly
> remove it in a timely manner.
>
> Also, I have an issue with the phrase "EPP-Consistent," as technical
> protocols may change or be renamed, and shouldn't be baked in to policy.
> Imagine if the first IRTP referenced "RRP-Consistent" locks! I
> understand the intent, but think we should re-phrase.
>
>
> Finally, I'm still not convinced that all of this needs to be explicitly
> included in the IRTP itself. We should consider other ways to
> communicate this to all parties, such as a definitions sheet or
> Advisory.
How does one go about drafting an advisory? Where do these come from?
>
> Thanks--
>
> J.
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Feedback on Charter Question E
> From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, August 30, 2010 8:52 am
> To: "Diaz, Paul" <pdiaz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "<Gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx>" <Gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx>,
> Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
> On 30 Aug 2010, at 14:47, Diaz, Paul wrote:
>
>> I do not support Staff’s proposed amendment to Denial Reason #6 (below).
>> This is exactly the kind of “unintended consequence” that we need to guard
>> against. If registrars were now only allowed to lock a domain once “the
>> informed consent of the registrant [had been] given on an opt-in basis,”
>> it’s quite likely that some domain holders will fail to do so and those
>> names will be more vulnerable to hijacking or theft.
>
> +1
>
>
>>
>> This WG should be focused on clarifying the Transfer Policy’s terms to have
>> a lock REMOVED, not raising the bar against providing basic security in the
>> first place.
>
> +1
>
>>
>> Sincerely, P
>>
>> From: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:36 AM
>> To: Diaz, Paul; rob.golding@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Feedback on Charter Question E
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> In response to the comments made by Paul and Rob, as we understand the
>> process, if a domain is "in an EPP consistent lock status", then it is not
>> possible to initiate a domain transfer, and therefore, it’s not possible to
>> deny such a transfer. Based on that, we suggested that the substance of
>> denial reason #7 (that registrars have to provide a reasonable means for
>> registrants to request the removal of any lock status) should be discussed
>> elsewhere in the policy and not included in the list of reasons why it's OK
>> for a registrar to deny a pending transfer request. (Of course, we might
>> have misunderstood how the process works, and if so, please feel free to
>> clarify or correct).
>>
>> In addition, in relation to the discussions on Charter Question C and denial
>> reason #6, it might be beneficial to expand and clarify this language to
>> tailor it more to explicitly address registrar-specific (i.e. non-EPP) locks
>> in order to make it clear(er) that the registrant must give some sort of
>> informed opt-in express consent to having such a lock applied, and the
>> registrant must be able to have the lock removed upon reasonable notice and
>> authentication. This denial reason could potentially be split into two
>> reasons of registrant objection for denial -- (1) express objection to a
>> particular transfer, and (2) a general indefinite request to deny all
>> transfer requests. A proposed modification might be as follows:
>>
>> "6. Express objection to the transfer from the Transfer Contact. Such
>> objection could take the form of a specific request made by the registrant
>> to deny a particular pending transfer request, or a general request made by
>> the registrant that the registrar temporarily or indefinitely deny all
>> transfer requests, but in either case the request from the registrant must
>> be based on the informed consent of the registrant given on an opt-in basis,
>> and the registrar must make available a reasonable and secure means for the
>> registrant to revoke the request on a timely basis, unilaterally and without
>> conditions."
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> Marika
>>
>> On 23/08/10 15:19, "Diaz, Paul" <pdiaz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I support Rob's point. This WG needs to be ever-vigilant about not
>>> creating "unintended consequences" - especially in matters of domain
>>> name security. Abolishing Denial Reason #7 likely would have the effect
>>> of negating the enhanced security offered by some Registry Operators'
>>> registry lock services. I don't think that's what anyone intends...
>>>
>>> If members of the WG really believe that Denial Reason #7 needs
>>> clarification, perhaps the following extra text (in CAPS) will help?
>>>
>>> A domain name was already in AN EPP-CONSISTENT "lock status" provided
>>> that the Registrar provides a readily accessible and reasonable means
>>> for the Registered Name Holder to remove the lock status.
>>>
>>> Regards, P
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:owner-gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Golding
>>> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:54 AM
>>> To: 'Marika Konings'; Gnso-irtp-b-jun09@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: [gnso-irtp-b-jun09] Feedback on Charter Question E
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2. Denial reason #7 - this seems superfluous as a ground for
>>> denying
>>>> a transfer request. If a domain is in "lock status", the registry
>>>> cannot initiate a transfer request (so there will not be a ground for
>>>> denial based on #7)
>>>
>>> That applies where the "lock" is one set by/at the registry, rather than
>>> additional lock-levels that some of us registrars offer our clients.
>>>
>>> If one of our registrants request their domain is "super-locked" then
>>> all
>>> attempts at transfer will be automatically denied, until the registrant
>>> decides to remove that restriction - it's one of the ways the management
>>> of
>>> a business stop "upstart" in their IT department moving their domains
>>> around
>>> without authorisation.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
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