[gnso-irtp-b-jun09] FW: Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from IRTP Part B

[Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>]

For your information, please find below the chat transcript of today's meeting.

With best regards,

Marika

On 12/04/11 17:31, "Marika Konings" 
<marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

  Marika Konings:IRTP Part B WG Meeting - 12 April 2011
  Michele Neylon:If I fall off or get disconnected blame the Hilton
  Gisella Gruber-White:Or Belgian Telekom :-)
  Paul Diaz:@James - sick but funny
  Bladel:I alwys think she's talking to me, and I look for the 'Start 
Recording" button....
  Michele Neylon::)
  Barbara - RySG:Just joined the call.  Sorry that I am a bit late.
  Gisella Gruber-White:Barbara Steele, Christ Chaplow, Berry Cobb, Simonetta 
Batteiger have joined the call
  Bladel:Use the chat, we'll read it for you. :)
  Bob Mountain:Stupid question but what is RADAR?
  Marika Konings:Thank you! I'm actually not in any pain, it is probably just 
painful for you to hear ;-)
  Marika Konings:I think some of those suggestions for making it more specific 
can be found in other parts of the document
  Berry Cobb:IT'd be more useful to have those that wrote the commments on the 
call.
  Gisella Gruber-White:Rob Golding joined the call
  Marika Konings:I also made clear that the intent would be to include it in 
the IRTP would make it clear that it is binding as a consensus policy
  Simonetta Batteiger:maybe it's just a small change of wording and everyone 
will be happy
  Bladel:perhaps that's a "phase II' exercise.
  Bob Mountain:I think if lack of response is "actionable" we will need some 
kind of robust system to track these activities.  Needs to be defensible.
  Berry Cobb:Mikey, maybe if you the word "ONLY" 100 times, it will become more 
clear?
  Berry Cobb:use
  Berry Cobb:formalize instead of establish.
  Bladel:No issues
  Gisella Gruber-White:Rob Golding disconnected and has not dialled back in
  Michele Neylon:awww
  Bladel:Agree with Simonetta.  This was the thinking behind other methods of 
contact....
  Berry Cobb:this audit/document component is why we tried to leverage the TDRP
  Matt Serlin:Agree with that, but follow-up needs to happen in writing
  Bladel:No required timeframe to resolve the issue, just to respond to the 
request.
  Bladel:This is why we've invented UTC, ug.
  Matt Serlin:Agree with Paul 100%
  Berry Cobb:+1 Paul,  So nice that ICANN is concerned about that.
  Paul Diaz:agree w/ Mikey.  For those "micro" registrars that claim they don't 
have manpower, they could look into "outsourcing" (via a "Registrar in a Box" 
provider, and/or some 3rd party that provides back-end services)
  Bladel:Paul:  There are even 24/7 paging services that can monitor an email 
address.
  Bladel:Probably $50-$75 per month
  Paul Diaz:@James - exactly right.  "Intended purpose" is to open a 
communication channel
  Bladel:LIke the Cuban Missile Crisis, we are just trying to set up the "red 
phone," not resolve all foreign policy differences.
  Mikey O'Connor:+1 James
  Michele Neylon:someone needs to capture that - it's very good wording
  Berry Cobb:The "Next Steps" part was also another reason we leaned on TDRP.  
Its the DR part of TDRP that sank Urgent Return 2.0
  Mikey O'Connor:cool!
  Simonetta Batteiger:me too
  Matt Serlin:i agree with Paul
  Berry Cobb:+1 Paul, at this point we have no idea what the bandwidth of this 
process can handle nor how effective it will be yet.
  Mikey O'Connor:i'm sympathetic with Paul's argument
  Mikey O'Connor:should we say that James?
  Mikey O'Connor:"in English for starters"?
  Bladel:I think there's something like that for another communication 
requirement.  We should look for that and copy the language.
  Mikey O'Connor:somewhere else in ICANN policy?
  Bladel:I htink so.
  Rob Golding (Othello):does it have to be telephone ?
  Mikey O'Connor:voice conversation?
  Kevin Erdman:What if a .cn domain is hyjacked and transferred from Chinese 
registrar A to Chinese registrar B, would it not be subject to this ICANN 
policy and require english language conversation or communication?
  Simonetta Batteiger:I liked the "real time" idea
  Michele Neylon:Kevin .cn isn't Icann's problem
  Matt Serlin:@Kevin...no
  Paul Diaz:The draft currently reads "The EAC may be a designated as an email 
address, telephone number, orsome other real-time communication " - real time 
chat is definitely a posibility
  Rob Golding (Othello):@kevin, you mean .com ?
  Matt Serlin:this is just gTLDs...ccTLDs are much more fun :)
  Michele Neylon:Matt :)
  Simonetta Batteiger:how about "in a language both registrars speak"
  Kevin Erdman:Yes, I meant a .cn registrar that has a .com domain in its 
registry.
  Rob Golding (Othello):can understand
  Simonetta Batteiger:like your tweak
  Chris Chaplow:like "real-time communication
  Matt Serlin:@Kevin...it doesn't really matter where the registrar is but just 
that they are an ICANN accredited registrar
  Barbara - RySG:I need to drop off. Thanks.
  Bob Mountain:Me too, sorry
  Kevin Erdman:@Matt my point is that an ICANN transfer can certainly occur 
outside of English language zones
  Bladel:reluctant agreeement. :)
  Bladel:Section 3.4 of the RAA.
  Bladel:Section 3.4.2 covers Contact Data.
  Bladel:+1 Mikey
  Rob Golding (Othello):agree with mikey
  Simonetta Batteiger:fairly sure they would like it
  Bladel:No you don't recognize it.  I completely made it up. :)
  Rob Golding (Othello):Are icann not already doing regular checks of the 
details in radar ?
  Simonetta Batteiger:fine with that, too. :)
  Rob Golding (Othello):regular validation by attempting contact ?
  Berry Cobb:Thank goodness for MP3
  Mikey O'Connor:get Marika to talk again -- her voice is getting crazy
  Mikey O'Connor:oh good -- have her say something about it
  Mikey O'Connor:woohoo!
  Marika Konings::-)
  Paul Diaz:@Simonetta - comment #8 must misunderstand the "intended purpose" 
of the proposal
  Bladel:We could stop the bad guys from become registrars.  That would work. :)
  Simonetta Batteiger:maybe we should just respond by saying that we thought of 
this
  Paul Diaz:agreed
  Bladel:that's a zombie horse.
  Michele Neylon:i got disconnected
  Simonetta Batteiger:I think this proposal covers both
  Michele Neylon:dialling back in
  Michele Neylon:grr
  Michele Neylon:im back
  Bladel::0