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RE: [gnso-irtpc] Recommendation Charter Question C

  • To: "'Marika Konings'" <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>, "'Paul Diaz'" <pdiaz@xxxxxxx>, "'Mike O'Connor'" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-irtpc] Recommendation Charter Question C
  • From: "Chris Chaplow" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:31:10 +0200

Hi All,

 

We are gettingthere

 

But it is not just about publish in the thick whois, it is also about
communications and transfer requests.

Remember Michele story of email  of xfer request  to registrar SDFRT2345   

 

The IANA id should be the one primarily referred to in any external message.

 

Internally  is their own choice.

 

 

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De: owner-gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx] En nombre
de Marika Konings
Enviado el: martes, 29 de mayo de 2012 19:22
Para: Paul Diaz; Mike O'Connor
CC: IRTPC Working Group
Asunto: Re: [gnso-irtpc] Recommendation Charter Question C

 

If I've understood the comments on the call today correctly, I think the
main concern with the proposed language by the RySG was that it seemed to
suggest that new registries should not be allowed to use proprietary IDs,
which I don't think was the intent of the RySG or the WG (but please correct
me if I am wrong). If this assessment is correct, a possible solution could
be to add one sentence to the language proposed by the RySG (in between
brackets and bold):

 

The WG recommends that all gTLD Registry Operators be required to publish
the Registrar of Record's IANA ID in the TLD's thick WHOIS. Existing gTLD
Registry operators that currently use proprietary IDs can continue to do so,
but they must also publish the Registrar of Record's IANA ID. [This
recommendation should not prevent the use of proprietary IDs by gTLD
Registry Operators for other purposes, as long as the Registrar of Record's
IANA ID is published in the TLD's thick Whois]. 

 

Does this make sense?

 

Best regards,

 

Marika

 

On 29/05/12 18:30, "Paul Diaz" <pdiaz@xxxxxxx> wrote:

 

 

Just get to the crux of the matter:

 

The WG recommends that all gTLD Registry Operators be required to publish
the Registrar of Record's IANA ID as a distinct field in the TLD's thick
WHOIS.  Existing gTLD Registry operators that currently use prorprietary IDs
can continue to do so, but they must also publish the Registrar of Record's
IANA ID.

 

Proprietary IDs are used by a number of Registry Operator for essential
back-end operations.  "Encouraging" the "exclusive use" of IANA IDs (in
place of the proprietary numbers) is NOT in this WG's remit as it would
effectively be dictating a business model.

 

The WG is charged with looking into ways to to facilitate transfers and save
Registrars the extra step of having to look up the proprietary IDs?  Ok.
Then just require that the IANA ID has to be clearly published in the thick
Whois output.  Other fields not connected to the transfer process are of no
consequence to this WG.

 

If anything, "proprietary IDs" are going to be even more commonplace when
new gTLDs come to market as the finite pool of back-end operators will need
unique ways of tracking registration partners for the various TLDs under
their management.

 

Best, P

 

 

On May 29, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Mike O'Connor wrote:

 

here's a go at the Charter Question C stuff

 

PREVIOUS TEXT:  Recommendation Charter Question C: the WG recommends that
new Registries standardize onIANA IDs. The WG also recommends that existing
Registries that currently use proprietary IDs switch to use IANA IDs, but
these Registries will be allowed to maintain the option to continue to use
their proprietary IDs. Finally the WG recommends that the option to maintain
the use of proprietary IDs be reviewed in 24 months and reconsidered at that
point in time.

 

PROPOSED TEXT:  Recommendation Charter Question C: the WG recommends that
new gTLD Registry Operators standardize on IANA IDs and that all Registry
Operators must publish the Registrar of Record's IANA ID. The WG encourages
existing Registry Operators that currently use proprietary IDS to consider
transitioning to the exclusive use of IANA IDs, but notes that there are
operational issues that may make this very difficult.  Thus Registry
Operators that currently use proprietary IDs can continue to do so, but they
must also publish the Registrar of Record's IANA ID.

 

mikey

 

 

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