Re: [gnso-irtpc] Recommendation Charter Question C

["Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>]

works for me -- good catch

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On May 29, 2012, at 12:27 PM, James M. Bladel wrote:

> May I suggest we add the word "also" in the last sentence for iron-clad 
> clarity (see below)?
> 
> The WG recommends that all gTLD Registry Operators be required to publish the 
> Registrar of Record's IANA ID in the TLD's thick WHOIS. Existing gTLD 
> Registry operators that currently use proprietary IDs can continue to do so, 
> but they must also publish the Registrar of Record's IANA ID. [This 
> recommendation should not prevent the use of proprietary IDs by gTLD Registry 
> Operators for other purposes, as long as the Registrar of Record's IANA ID is 
> _also_ published in the TLD's thick Whois]. 
> 
> Thanks---
> 
> J.
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [gnso-irtpc] Recommendation Charter Question C
> From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, May 29, 2012 12:22 pm
> To: Paul Diaz <pdiaz@xxxxxxx>, "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: IRTPC Working Group <gnso-irtpc@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> If I've understood the comments on the call today correctly, I think the main 
> concern with the proposed language by the RySG was that it seemed to suggest 
> that new registries should not be allowed to use proprietary IDs, which I 
> don't think was the intent of the RySG or the WG (but please correct me if I 
> am wrong). If this assessment is correct, a possible solution could be to add 
> one sentence to the language proposed by the RySG (in between brackets and 
> bold):
> 
> The WG recommends that all gTLD Registry Operators be required to publish the 
> Registrar of Record's IANA ID in the TLD's thick WHOIS. Existing gTLD 
> Registry operators that currently use proprietary IDs can continue to do so, 
> but they must also publish the Registrar of Record's IANA ID. [This 
> recommendation should not prevent the use of proprietary IDs by gTLD Registry 
> Operators for other purposes, as long as the Registrar of Record's IANA ID is 
> published in the TLD's thick Whois]. 
> 
> Does this make sense?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Marika
> 
> On 29/05/12 18:30, "Paul Diaz" <pdiaz@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> Just get to the crux of the matter:
> 
> The WG recommends that all gTLD Registry Operators be required to publish the 
> Registrar of Record's IANA ID as a distinct field in the TLD's thick WHOIS.  
> Existing gTLD Registry operators that currently use prorprietary IDs can 
> continue to do so, but they must also publish the Registrar of Record's IANA 
> ID.
> 
> Proprietary IDs are used by a number of Registry Operator for essential 
> back-end operations.  "Encouraging" the "exclusive use" of IANA IDs (in place 
> of the proprietary numbers) is NOT in this WG's remit as it would effectively 
> be dictating a business model.
> 
> The WG is charged with looking into ways to to facilitate transfers and save 
> Registrars the extra step of having to look up the proprietary IDs?  Ok.  
> Then just require that the IANA ID has to be clearly published in the thick 
> Whois output.  Other fields not connected to the transfer process are of no 
> consequence to this WG.
> 
> If anything, "proprietary IDs" are going to be even more commonplace when new 
> gTLDs come to market as the finite pool of back-end operators will need 
> unique ways of tracking registration partners for the various TLDs under 
> their management.
> 
> Best, P
> 
> 
> On May 29, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
> 
> here's a go at the Charter Question C stuff
> 
> PREVIOUS TEXT:  Recommendation Charter Question C: the WG recommends that new 
> Registries standardize onIANA IDs. The WG also recommends that existing 
> Registries that currently use proprietary IDs switch to use IANA IDs, but 
> these Registries will be allowed to maintain the option to continue to use 
> their proprietary IDs. Finally the WG recommends that the option to maintain 
> the use of proprietary IDs be reviewed in 24 months and reconsidered at that 
> point in time.
> 
> PROPOSED TEXT:  Recommendation Charter Question C: the WG recommends that new 
> gTLD Registry Operators standardize on IANA IDs and that all Registry 
> Operators must publish the Registrar of Record's IANA ID. The WG encourages 
> existing Registry Operators that currently use proprietary IDS to consider 
> transitioning to the exclusive use of IANA IDs, but notes that there are 
> operational issues that may make this very difficult.  Thus Registry 
> Operators that currently use proprietary IDs can continue to do so, but they 
> must also publish the Registrar of Record's IANA ID.
> 
> mikey
> 
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