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[gnso-osc-csg] RE:10 April Draft Meeting Notes--Importance of Inputs
- To: Victoria McEvedy <victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>, Olga Cavalli <olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, jahedlund@xxxxxxxxxxx, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: [gnso-osc-csg] RE:10 April Draft Meeting Notes--Importance of Inputs
- From: SS Kshatriy <sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:44:14 -0700 (PDT)
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style="font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi Everybody,</DIV>
<DIV>Today's first mail from Victoria has generated interesting mails. I will
refer to following comments from Chuck on that (first mail from Chuck), and
impress upon WT, Staff and Constituencies the importance of "<FONT
color=#0000ff>inputs"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>"In
my opinion, the above illustrates how important it is for the CSG WT
to get lots of input from constituencies and SGs so that we hopefully can
minimize conflicts between our recommendations and SG
charters."</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT color=#0000ff>--</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT color=#000000>Thus, let us base our
work on the background material and seek it wherever we don't see
one.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT
color=#000000></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT color=#000000>SS</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 4/14/09, Gomes, Chuck
<I><cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Gomes, Chuck
<cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Change to OSC-CSG 10
April Draft Meeting Notes<BR>To: "Victoria McEvedy"
<victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Olga Cavalli" <olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
jahedlund@xxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Cc: "OSC-CSG Work Team"
<gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 7:12 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Let me take a crack at this Victoria.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>My first answer is that it depends on:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>How detailed the charters are</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI>
<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Whether or not any of the CSG WT recommendations are approved by the
Council and the Board and then conflict with any elements of SG
charters.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI></UL>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I suspect that some of the recommendations we come up with
will not conflict with charters because the charters will not include detailed
information regarding the recommendations. For example, I would predict
that a recommendation for ICANN funding website hosting for all SGs would not
conflict; charters will probably include the provision of an SG website but may
not discuss how that would be funded. I know that is the case for the
proposed RySG Charter.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>But there also may be cases where approved recommendations
will conflict with some SG charters. Here's a possible example of that:
Let's assume the Board approves a CSG WT recommendation that all SG email lists
must be publicly archived. I think it is quite likely that some charters
will not provide for this or may provide for no public archiving at all.
In cases like this, assuming the Board approved any such SG charters, they will
probably have to be amended.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Ideally, it would have probably been better to complete
the CSG WT work and seek Board approval of any recommendations before
implementing the SGs and hence the SG charters. But the Board wanted
to get the bicameral structure implemented sooner than would be possible
if we waited until the WTs were finished. To implement the bicameral
Council, SG charters are needed.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>In my opinion, the above illustrates how important it
is for the CSG WT to get lots of input from constituencies and SGs so
that we hopefully can minimize conflicts between our recommendations and
SG charters. It will probably not be possible to avoid all
conflicts but maybe we can avoid some.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hope this helps.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Chuck</FONT> </SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Victoria
McEvedy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:01 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Olga
Cavalli; jahedlund@xxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Cc:</B> OSC-CSG Work
Team<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Change to OSC-CSG 10 April Draft
Meeting Notes<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:
'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'">Can I trouble the team –and please accept my
apologies if I am missing an obvious point, how does our work fit in with the
fact that charters are already being submitted by stakeholder groups for
approval? </SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma',
'sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
'Tahoma', 'sans-serif'"> owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Olga
Cavalli<BR><B>Sent:</B> 13 April 2009 21:12<BR><B>To:</B>
jahedlund@xxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Cc:</B> OSC-CSG Work Team<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[gnso-osc-csg] Change to OSC-CSG 10 April Draft Meeting Notes</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">Dear Work Team members,<BR><BR>I
hope this email finds you well.<BR><BR>Please remember that we agreed during
our last conference call to <STRONG>review the draft charter and to indicate
your approval/disapproval by the end of today Monday, 13
April.</STRONG><B><BR><BR>If no dissenting comments are received by that time
the charter will be considered to be approved.</B><BR><B><BR><STRONG>Link to
the draft charter in our Wiki: <A
href="https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_work_team_draft_charter"
target=_blank
rel=nofollow>https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_work_team_draft_charter</A></STRONG><BR><BR></B>In
order to allow all the team members to review the suggested changes, comments
and deletions, the texts shows these edit marks until we decide to agree on a
certain text. <BR><BR>It could be useful for our working team to arrange a face
to face
meeting during the Sydney ICANN meeting, so I will ask Glen to find a time and
place during for this. If you have any comments in this regard please let me
know.<BR><BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',
'sans-serif'">For those who did not participate in the conference call, you can
find the meeting notes in our wiki: <A
href="https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?osc_constituency_operation_work_team_meeting_notes"
target=_blank
rel=nofollow>https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?osc_constituency_operation_work_team_meeting_notes</A>.</SPAN><BR><BR>Regards
to all.<BR><BR>Olga<BR><BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>2009/4/13 Julie Hedlund <<A
href="mailto:jahedlund@xxxxxxxxxxx" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>jahedlund@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',
'sans-serif'">Dear Work Team members,</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',
'sans-serif'">S.S. has made an excellent suggestion that it would be helpful if
the team could easily reference the comments he has provided via email on the
constituency background materials sent by Rob Hoggarth. Accordingly, I
have placed a link to the comments provided by S.S. in the form of a Word
document at item 4 in the Draft Notes of the meeting. (See
the Wiki at: <A
href="https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?osc_constituency_operation_work_team_meeting_notes"
target=_blank
rel=nofollow>https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?osc_constituency_operation_work_team_meeting_notes</A>.) </SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',
'sans-serif'">Please let me know if you have any questions.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',
'sans-serif'">Best regards,</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',
'sans-serif'">Julie</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',
'sans-serif'">Julie Hedlund</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',
'sans-serif'">Policy Consultant</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P
class=MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>
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