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[gnso-osc-csg] RE:10 April Draft Meeting Notes--Importance of Inputs

To: Victoria McEvedy <victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>, Olga Cavalli <olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, jahedlund@xxxxxxxxxxx, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gnso-osc-csg] RE:10 April Draft Meeting Notes--Importance of Inputs
From: SS Kshatriy <sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:44:14 -0700 (PDT)
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style="font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi Everybody,</DIV>
<DIV>Today's first mail from Victoria has generated interesting mails. I will 
refer to following comments from Chuck on that (first mail from Chuck), and 
impress upon WT, Staff and Constituencies the importance of "<FONT 
color=#0000ff>inputs"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>"In 
my opinion, the above illustrates how important&nbsp;it is for&nbsp;the CSG WT 
to get lots of input from constituencies and SGs&nbsp;so that we hopefully can 
minimize conflicts between&nbsp;our recommendations and SG 
charters."</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT color=#0000ff>--</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT color=#000000>Thus, let us base our 
work on the background material and seek it wherever we don't see 
one.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT 
color=#000000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT color=#000000>SS</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 4/14/09, Gomes, Chuck 
<I>&lt;cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: 
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Gomes, Chuck 
&lt;cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Change to OSC-CSG 10 
April Draft Meeting Notes<BR>To: "Victoria McEvedy" 
&lt;victoria@xxxxxxxxxx&gt;, "Olga Cavalli" &lt;olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, 
jahedlund@xxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Cc: "OSC-CSG Work Team" 
&lt;gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 7:12 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>Let me take a crack at this Victoria.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>My first answer is that it depends on:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<UL dir=ltr>
<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>How detailed the charters are</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI>
<LI>
<DIV align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Whether or not any of the CSG WT recommendations are approved by the 
Council and the Board and then conflict with any elements of SG 
charters.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI></UL>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>I suspect that some of the recommendations we come up with 
will not conflict with charters because the charters will not include detailed 
information regarding the recommendations.&nbsp; For example, I would predict 
that a recommendation for ICANN funding website hosting for all SGs would not 
conflict; charters will probably include the provision of an SG website but may 
not discuss how that would be funded.&nbsp; I know that is the case for the 
proposed RySG Charter.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>But there also may be cases where approved recommendations 
will conflict with some SG charters.&nbsp; Here's a possible example of that: 
Let's assume the Board approves a CSG WT recommendation that all SG email lists 
must be publicly archived.&nbsp; I think it is quite likely that some charters 
will not provide for this or may provide for no public archiving at all.&nbsp; 
In cases like this, assuming the Board approved any such SG charters, they will 
probably have to be amended.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>Ideally, it would have probably been better to complete 
the CSG WT work and seek Board approval of any recommendations before 
implementing the SGs and hence the SG charters.&nbsp; But the Board&nbsp;wanted 
to get the bicameral structure implemented&nbsp;sooner than would be possible 
if we waited until the WTs were finished.&nbsp; To implement the bicameral 
Council, SG charters are needed.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>In my opinion, the above illustrates how important&nbsp;it 
is for&nbsp;the CSG WT to get lots of input from constituencies and SGs&nbsp;so 
that we hopefully can minimize conflicts between&nbsp;our recommendations and 
SG charters.&nbsp; It will probably not&nbsp;be possible to avoid all 
conflicts&nbsp;but maybe we can avoid some.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>Hope this helps.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=666194812-14042009><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>Chuck</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Victoria 
McEvedy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:01 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Olga 
Cavalli; jahedlund@xxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Cc:</B> OSC-CSG Work 
Team<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Change to OSC-CSG 10 April Draft 
Meeting Notes<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 
'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'">Can I trouble the team –and please accept my 
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fact that charters are already being submitted by stakeholder groups for 
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma', 
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[mailto:owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Olga 
Cavalli<BR><B>Sent:</B> 13 April 2009 21:12<BR><B>To:</B> 
jahedlund@xxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Cc:</B> OSC-CSG Work Team<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 
[gnso-osc-csg] Change to OSC-CSG 10 April Draft Meeting Notes</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">Dear Work Team members,<BR><BR>I 
hope this email finds you well.<BR><BR>Please remember that we agreed during 
our last conference call to <STRONG>review the draft charter and to indicate 
your approval/disapproval by the end of today Monday, 13 
April.</STRONG><B><BR><BR>If no dissenting comments are received by that time 
the charter will be considered to be approved.</B><BR><B><BR><STRONG>Link to 
the draft charter in our Wiki: <A 
href="https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_work_team_draft_charter";
 target=_blank 
rel=nofollow>https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_work_team_draft_charter</A></STRONG><BR><BR></B>In
 order to allow all the team members to review the suggested changes, comments 
and deletions, the texts shows these edit marks until we decide to agree on a 
certain text. <BR><BR>It could be useful for our working team to arrange a face 
to face
 meeting during the Sydney ICANN meeting, so I will ask Glen to find a time and 
place during for this. If you have any comments in this regard please let me 
know.<BR><BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 
'sans-serif'">For those who did not participate in the conference call, you can 
find the meeting notes in our wiki:&nbsp; <A 
href="https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?osc_constituency_operation_work_team_meeting_notes";
 target=_blank 
rel=nofollow>https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?osc_constituency_operation_work_team_meeting_notes</A>.</SPAN><BR><BR>Regards
 to all.<BR><BR>Olga<BR><BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>2009/4/13 Julie Hedlund &lt;<A 
href="mailto:jahedlund@xxxxxxxxxxx"; target=_blank 
rel=nofollow>jahedlund@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 
'sans-serif'">Dear Work Team members,</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 
'sans-serif'">S.S. has made an excellent suggestion that it would be helpful if 
the team could easily reference the comments he has provided via email on the 
constituency background materials sent by Rob Hoggarth.&nbsp; Accordingly, I 
have placed a link to the comments provided by S.S. in the form of a Word 
document at item 4&nbsp; in the Draft Notes of the meeting.&nbsp;&nbsp; (See 
the Wiki at: <A 
href="https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?osc_constituency_operation_work_team_meeting_notes";
 target=_blank 
rel=nofollow>https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?osc_constituency_operation_work_team_meeting_notes</A>.)&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 
'sans-serif'">Please let me know if you have any questions.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 
'sans-serif'">Best regards,</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 
'sans-serif'">Julie</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 
'sans-serif'">Julie Hedlund</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 
'sans-serif'">Policy Consultant</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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  - From: Gomes, Chuck
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