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- To: ChuckGomes <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Olga Cavalli <olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx>, victoria@xxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report
- From: SS Kshatriy <sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 06:25:01 -0700 (PDT)
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style="font: inherit;"><DIV>There is a catch in Chuck's recommendation.</DIV>
<DIV>First question arises--why to that exercise?</DIV>
<DIV>Members in higher-up bodies are not students that you want to feed them
with easy to digest lessons.</DIV>
<DIV>-</DIV>
<DIV>Another catch is that such members, being too occupied, tend to read only
Staff prepared briefs, many times not well represented of facts.</DIV>
<DIV>--</DIV>
<DIV>This I write based on my long personal experience.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>SS<BR>--- On <B>Sun, 5/16/10, victoria@xxxxxxxxxx
<I><victoria@xxxxxxxxxx></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: victoria@xxxxxxxxxx
<victoria@xxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority
Report<BR>To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Olga Cavalli"
<olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: "Julie Hedlund"
<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-osc-csg"
<gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 5:08 AM<BR><BR>
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I would like to say and I think SS would agree that we would prefer this task
not be undertaken and ask that the minority report be submitted just as it is
to be read in full---and not extracted from or condensed or edited or
trunciated in anyway whatsoever. Thank you. Victoria
<DIV>Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device</DIV>
<HR>
<DIV><B>From: </B>"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Date: </B>Sun, 16 May 2010 07:46:22 -0400</DIV>
<DIV><B>To: </B>Victoria McEvedy<victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>; Olga
Cavalli<olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx></DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc: </B>Julie Hedlund<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>;
gnso-osc-csg<gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx></DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject: </B>RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:
11pt">Olga,</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:
11pt"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">After having
read the minority report, I would like to make a suggestion that I think would
be beneficial to the CSG WT as we finalize our work, to the OSC when they
review our final report, and to the Council when they take action on the
recommendations that are sent forward by the OSC. I suggest that Julie
(if possible) prepare a complete and concise table that lists the
recommendations in the minority report with the corresponding recommendation
from the WT report as applicable. To the extent possible:</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal;
FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-WEIGHT:
normal">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:
11pt">Recommendations should be quoted verbatim from the applicable document if
that can be done briefly.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal;
FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-WEIGHT:
normal">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">In cases
where recommendations include multiple parts, they should be broken out in
those separate parts if that makes it easier to compare the
elements.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal;
FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-WEIGHT:
normal">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Document
references should be included for all recommendations from both documents to
make it easy for anyone to go to the documents and read the full text (e.g.,
Section #, Page #, Line # as appropriate).</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal;
FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-WEIGHT:
normal">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The
comparison table should not include any rationale for recommendations but
readers should be encourage to read the full text; this will hopefully allow
readers to compare the recommendations on their face value and make their own
analysis and form their own questions.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I fully
understand that this is a time consuming task for Julie, but I strongly believe
that it will save lots of time for everyone involved as the recommendations
move forward through the next steps of the process.</SPAN></DIV>
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11pt"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I welcome
other thoughts on this.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:
11pt"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:
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[gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Please find attached by way of
submission a Joint Minority Report by SS K</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>shatriy and
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>Claudio,<BR>thanks for your
comments and suggestions.<BR>I agree with them.<BR>Regards<BR>Olga</DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>2010/5/10 Claudio Di Gangi <<A
href="http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cdigangi@xxxxxxxx"
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Olga,</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Thank you. Please see the
attached red-line, where I made three edits. </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">One covers a change we agreed to
on a work team call: to delete the Term limit for GNSO Councilors within this
document. </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">The reason is because term limits
for Councilors are already specified in the ICANN Bylaws, so we wanted to avoid
confusion with those provisions. For reference, I think Michael was chairing
that particular work team call. </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">My other two edits are summarized
below, and are non-substantive.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="COLOR: black">1.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE:
7pt"> </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I added
“for GNSO Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies” to the title of the document
so it is more clear as to where this applies.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="COLOR: black">2.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE:
7pt"> </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I made an
edit to clarify a sentence in the background section that I found vague because
it referred to Groups existing within the “GNSO Council”, not the broader GNSO.
This sentence now reads:</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">“When the BGC WG made its initial
recommendations, the concept of Stakeholder Groups (SGs) as part of the GNSO
structure had not yet been implemented. Since then SGs have been
implemented within the GNSO structure along with Constituencies.”</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Subject to the correction
identified above, I am OK approving this document. Thanks to all for their time
& hard work on the effort.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">claudio</SPAN></DIV>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Olga Cavalli<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 07, 2010 2:25
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Julie Hedlund<BR><B>Cc:</B> gnso-osc-csg<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Actions/Summary: 07 May 2010 Meeting</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>Thanks Julie for this.</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><BR>Please
note:<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Work Team members are
requested to review Task 1 document and to provide any final comments and
minority reports, if any, by <U>Friday, 14 May.<BR><BR></U></SPAN></I></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In the case that you agree with the Task 1 text as it
is now and do not want to send minority reports or suggest changes, please send
an email to the list with this confirmation.<BR><BR>Have a nice weekend
<BR><BR>Regards<BR>Olga</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>2010/5/7 Julie Hedlund <<A
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dear Work Team
members,<BR><BR>Here are the actions from today’s meeting. (You will find
the summary on the wiki at: <U><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><A
href="https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_team"
rel=nofollow
target=_blank>https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_team</A></SPAN></U>.)
Please let me know if you have any changes or questions. Our next
meeting will be held next<B> Friday, 14 May <U>at 1300 UTC/0600 PST/0900
EST</U> for one hour.</B> <BR><BR>Best regards,<BR><BR>Julie<BR><BR><B>Action
Items:<BR>Task 1:</B> Actions: <BR>1. Olga asked Julie to make the
changes and to circulate the revised document. (Done, See attached document.)
<BR>2. <B><I>Work Team members are requested to review the document and
to provide any final comments and minority reports, if any, by <U>Friday, 14
May.<BR></U></I></B><BR><B>Task
2:</B> <BR>Debbie will revise the framework document based on comments
received from Work Team members and circulate the revised document for
review.<BR><BR><B>Summary: <BR></B>See the wiki at: <U><SPAN style="COLOR:
blue"><A
href="https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_team"
rel=nofollow
target=_blank>https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_team</A></SPAN></U></SPAN>
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