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RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report
- To: victoria@xxxxxxxxxx, Olga Cavalli <olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx>, ChuckGomes <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority Report
- From: SS Kshatriy <sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 06:27:57 -0700 (PDT)
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style="font: inherit;"><DIV>But it will not be read.</DIV>
<DIV>How many members read our earlier minority report?<BR><BR>SS<BR><BR>--- On
<B>Sun, 5/16/10, Gomes, Chuck <I><cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx></I></B>
wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Gomes, Chuck
<cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority
Report<BR>To: victoria@xxxxxxxxxx, "Olga Cavalli"
<olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: "Julie Hedlund"
<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-osc-csg"
<gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 5:52 AM<BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Your report will be available in full for anyone to read. No
one has ever suggested otherwise.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Chuck</SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE:
10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
victoria@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:victoria@xxxxxxxxxx] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May
16, 2010 8:50 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Gomes, Chuck; Olga Cavalli<BR><B>Cc:</B> Julie
Hedlund; gnso-osc-csg<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority
Report</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>My objection remains ---you propose extraction and in effect
trunciation/editing. That is not acceptable. There are no word limits for
Minority Reports nor style formalities and we are entitled to submit it in the
form of our choice. I'm sorry if you think it too long or would have preferred
a different approach. We want our report read in full and taken as is. We are
not submitting enumerated minority recomendations. </DIV>
<DIV>Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From: </B>"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B>Date: </B>Sun, 16 May 2010 08:27:03 -0400</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B>To: </B><victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>; Olga
Cavalli<olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B>Cc: </B>Julie Hedlund<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>;
gnso-osc-csg<gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B>Subject: </B>RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority
Report</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">You misunderstand Victoria. I am not suggesting that the
minority report should not be referenced as submitted or that any changes
should be made to your report. I am suggesting an additional document be
prepared that would make it very easy for the WT, the OSC and the Council to
compare your recommendations to those in the WT report in a concise and
accurate manner. For me this would make it much easier for me to simply
see where the actual variations between the two recommendations are and whether
they are justifiable in my view or need additional consideration. In my
opinion, your document does not do that for several reasons: 1) it is very long
and hence many who are not close to this issue will not read it thoroughly; 2)
it does not concisely list your recommendations but instead incorporates them
in the midst of lots of
background and your justification; 3) it does not accurately list all of the
WT final recommendations or discuss other related GNSO
requirements.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Chuck</SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE:
10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
victoria@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:victoria@xxxxxxxxxx] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May
16, 2010 8:09 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Gomes, Chuck; Olga Cavalli<BR><B>Cc:</B> Julie
Hedlund; gnso-osc-csg<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority
Report</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> </DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I would like to say and I think SS would agree that we would
prefer this task not be undertaken and ask that the minority report be
submitted just as it is to be read in full---and not extracted from or
condensed or edited or trunciated in anyway whatsoever. Thank you.
Victoria</DIV>
<DIV>Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From: </B>"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B>Date: </B>Sun, 16 May 2010 07:46:22 -0400</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B>To: </B>Victoria McEvedy<victoria@xxxxxxxxxx>; Olga
Cavalli<olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B>Cc: </B>Julie Hedlund<julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>;
gnso-osc-csg<gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B>Subject: </B>RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority
Report</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Olga,</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">After having read the minority report, I would like to make a
suggestion that I think would be beneficial to the CSG WT as we finalize our
work, to the OSC when they review our final report, and to the Council when
they take action on the recommendations that are sent forward by the OSC.
I suggest that Julie (if possible) prepare a complete and concise table that
lists the recommendations in the minority report with the corresponding
recommendation from the WT report as applicable. To the extent
possible:</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New
Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Recommendations should be quoted verbatim from the applicable
document if that can be done briefly.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New
Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">In cases where recommendations include multiple parts, they
should be broken out in those separate parts if that makes it easier to compare
the elements.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New
Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Document references should be included for all recommendations
from both documents to make it easy for anyone to go to the documents and read
the full text (e.g., Section #, Page #, Line # as appropriate).</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>·<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New
Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The comparison table should not include any rationale for
recommendations but readers should be encourage to read the full text; this
will hopefully allow readers to compare the recommendations on their face value
and make their own analysis and form their own questions.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I fully understand that this is a time consuming task for
Julie, but I strongly believe that it will save lots of time for everyone
involved as the recommendations move forward through the next steps of the
process.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I welcome other thoughts on this.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Chuck</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d;
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AM<BR><B>To:</B> Olga Cavalli<BR><B>Cc:</B> Julie Hedlund;
gnso-osc-csg<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Minority
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Dear Chair and WG, </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Please find attached by way of
submission a Joint Minority Report by SS K</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>shatriy and
me. </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB> </SPAN></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>Claudio,<BR>thanks for your
comments and suggestions.<BR>I agree with them.<BR>Regards<BR>Olga</DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>2010/5/10 Claudio Di Gangi <<A
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Olga,</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Thank you. Please see the
attached red-line, where I made three edits. </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">One covers a change we agreed to
on a work team call: to delete the Term limit for GNSO Councilors within this
document. </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">The reason is because term limits
for Councilors are already specified in the ICANN Bylaws, so we wanted to avoid
confusion with those provisions. For reference, I think Michael was chairing
that particular work team call. </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">My other two edits are summarized
below, and are non-substantive.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="COLOR: black">1.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE:
7pt"> </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I added
“for GNSO Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies” to the title of the document
so it is more clear as to where this applies.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="COLOR: black">2.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE:
7pt"> </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I made an
edit to clarify a sentence in the background section that I found vague because
it referred to Groups existing within the “GNSO Council”, not the broader GNSO.
This sentence now reads:</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">“When the BGC WG made its initial
recommendations, the concept of Stakeholder Groups (SGs) as part of the GNSO
structure had not yet been implemented. Since then SGs have been
implemented within the GNSO structure along with Constituencies.”</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Subject to the correction
identified above, I am OK approving this document. Thanks to all for their time
& hard work on the effort.</SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">claudio</SPAN></DIV>
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href="http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx";
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Olga Cavalli<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 07, 2010 2:25
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Julie Hedlund<BR><B>Cc:</B> gnso-osc-csg<BR><B>Subject:</B>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>Thanks Julie for this.</DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><BR>Please
note:<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Work Team members are
requested to review Task 1 document and to provide any final comments and
minority reports, if any, by <U>Friday, 14 May.<BR><BR></U></SPAN></I></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In the case that you agree with the Task 1 text as it
is now and do not want to send minority reports or suggest changes, please send
an email to the list with this confirmation.<BR><BR>Have a nice weekend
<BR><BR>Regards<BR>Olga</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>2010/5/7 Julie Hedlund <<A
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dear Work Team
members,<BR><BR>Here are the actions from today’s meeting. (You will find
the summary on the wiki at: <U><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><A
href="https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_team";
rel=nofollow
target=_blank>https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_team</A></SPAN></U>.)
Please let me know if you have any changes or questions. Our next
meeting will be held next<B> Friday, 14 May <U>at 1300 UTC/0600 PST/0900
EST</U> for one hour.</B> <BR><BR>Best regards,<BR><BR>Julie<BR><BR><B>Action
Items:<BR>Task 1:</B> Actions: <BR>1. Olga asked Julie to make the
changes and to circulate the revised document. (Done, See attached document.)
<BR>2. <B><I>Work Team members are requested to review the document and
to provide any final comments and minority reports, if any, by <U>Friday, 14
May.<BR></U></I></B><BR><B>Task
2:</B> <BR>Debbie will revise the framework document based on comments
received from Work Team members and circulate the revised document for
review.<BR><BR><B>Summary: <BR></B>See the wiki at: <U><SPAN style="COLOR:
blue"><A
href="https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_team";
rel=nofollow
target=_blank>https://st.icann.org/icann-osc/index.cgi?constituency_operations_team</A></SPAN></U></SPAN>
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