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AW: [gnso-osc-ops] RE: Revised Section 3.8 and Chapter 4.0

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  • Subject: AW: [gnso-osc-ops] RE: Revised Section 3.8 and Chapter 4.0
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  • Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 20:34:01 +0200

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        Von: owner-gnso-osc-ops@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-osc-ops@xxxxxxxxx] 
Im Auftrag von Ron Andruff
        Gesendet: Freitag, 21. Mai 2010 18:39
        An: 'Ken Bour'; gnso-osc-ops@xxxxxxxxx
        Betreff: [gnso-osc-ops] RE: Revised Section 3.8 and Chapter 4.0
        
        

        Works for me, Ken.  

         

        Thanks,

         

        RA

         

        Ronald N. Andruff

        President

         

        RNA Partners, Inc.

        220 Fifth Avenue

        New York, New York 10001

        + 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11

         

        
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        From: Ken Bour [mailto:ken.bour@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 12:35 PM
        To: 'Ron Andruff'; gnso-osc-ops@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Revised Section 3.8 and Chapter 4.0

         

        GCOT Members:

         

        In light of Ron's response to my comment about limiting the selection 
of a TA to the "membership" of a SG, I propose the following language change to 
4.5.3-c(i):  

         

        "In selecting a Temporary Alternate, the appointing organization is 
expected to shall choose, from within its membership ranks, a responsible 
individual who is not a current voting GNSO Council member, but is otherwise 
knowledgeable on the matter at issue and qualified to represent the appointing 
organization's interests."

         

        Will these edits accomplish the objective?   

         

        Ken

         

        From: Ron Andruff [mailto:randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:47 AM
        To: 'Ken Bour'; gnso-osc-ops@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-ops] Revised Section 3.8 and Chapter 4.0

         

        Dear all,

         

        I accept the modifications in Section 3.8 in total.

         

        I accept the modifications in Section 4.0, with the following responses 
to Ken's comments:

         

        *        Re: 4.5.3. c, i [Comment KAB2], specifically   limit a SG in 
choosing a TA from within its organization (i.e. bonafide member)  I feel the 
TA must be a bonafide member of the SG.  If an SG feels that it needs to take 
expert advice on a matter before the GNSO, it should do so and then instruct 
its TA member on how to vote.

         

        *        Re: 4.5.3. c, i [Comment KAB3], specifically   We probably 
don't want the TA remedy to become a 'back door' for an otherwise term-limited 
Councilor to reappear at Council meetings as a substitute voter.  Unless GCOT 
thinks it should undertake a new task to draft broader GNSO Council membership 
criteria, I recommend at least highlighting "Term Limits" to avoid potential 
confusion.  I agree that we do not want to leave a loophole that someone will 
surely try to take advantage of sooner or later.  One thing that has been 
lacking in ICANN for the past 10-years, but has improved somewhat in the last 
few, is having 'fresh faces' replace those who have 'squatted' on the GNSO 
council for too many years.  For this reason, I feel strongly that a former 
councilor who was term limited out of the council should be excluded from 
serving as a TA.  Having said that, if the Work Team feels that (1) the term 
limited ex-councilor would be more capable to get up-to-speed on an issue more 
quickly than another member; or (2) the likelihood of an ex-councilor TA having 
an SOI and bio already on file with ICANN, meaning one less issue to be 
addressed, I would concede my stated position to agree to allow a term-limited 
councilor being put forward as a TA.

         

        As for highlighting "Term Limits", I agree with Ken's recommendation.

         

        Kind regards,

         

        RA

         

        Ronald N. Andruff

        President

         

        RNA Partners, Inc.

        220 Fifth Avenue

        New York, New York 10001

        + 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11

         

        
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        From: owner-gnso-osc-ops@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-gnso-osc-ops@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Bour
        Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:44 PM
        To: gnso-osc-ops@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [gnso-osc-ops] Revised Section 3.8 and Chapter 4.0

         

        GCOT Members:

         

        Attached are revised versions of Section 3.8-Absences & Vacancies and 
Chapter 4.0-Voting.   Per the team's direction on 19 May, I accepted all prior 
edits; the attached documents primarily show revisions pertaining to House NCAs 
remedies.  

         

        As I indicated in my earlier note to the list, the changes were more 
extensive than I anticipated; however, I believe that these versions accomplish 
the team's intention to permit Proxy Voting and Temporary Alternate remedies 
for the two House NCAs.  

         

        I made a few additional edits not related specifically to the NCA issue 
because, pretty much every time I reconsider these procedures, I notice 
language that can be improved and/or clarified.   Since time is of the essence, 
I won't attempt to enumerate all of the edits in this email because they are 
redlined and also commented where I thought additional explanation would help 
rationalize the amendment.  

         

        I will stay abreast of list email traffic and be prepared to work 
diligently toward creating a final clean version by end of business tomorrow.  

         

        Ken Bour

         



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