RE: [gnso-osc-ops] RE: Today's GNSO Council results

["Ray Fassett" <ray@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ok, thanks Julie, good info. Standby it is.

Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: Julie Hedlund [mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:13 AM
To: Ray Fassett; Ron Andruff; 'Avri Doria'; gnso-osc-ops
Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-ops] RE: Today's GNSO Council results

Ray,

The Work Team is on standby.  Please keep in mind too that section 5.3.3 of
the SOI/DOI procedures has not been approved pending additional changes.
Staff is working on changes in section 5.3.3 to suggest to the WT to
consider.

Also, we may be providing input to the WT with respect to the issue below.

Thanks,
Julie


On 8/17/10 11:02 AM, "Ray Fassett" <ray@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> I imagine I should go to Philip and ask him the status of our group.  Are
we
> on standby, formally disbanded, still recognized by the OSC?  I will seek
> Philip's input and let you know what he says.
> 
> Ray
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gnso-osc-ops@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-osc-ops@xxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Ron Andruff
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:48 AM
> To: 'Avri Doria'; 'gnso-osc-ops'
> Subject: RE: [gnso-osc-ops] RE: Today's GNSO Council results
> 
> 
> Avri and all,
> 
> Avri makes a good point about staff 'consultants' and I too agree that
there
> should be a requirement for 'non-full-time staff' to fill out SOI/DOIs to
> ensure that the transparency we are trying to achieve in this is
fulfilled.
> 
> Question: Should we all feel this way, where does our disbanded WT take
this
> new issue now that our train has effectively left the station?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> RA
> 
> Ronald N. Andruff
> 
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> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gnso-osc-ops@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-osc-ops@xxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Avri Doria
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:55 PM
> To: gnso-osc-ops
> Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-ops] RE: Today's GNSO Council results
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Not trying to be difficult or ruin the party, but am in the process of
> trying to implement some of these newly approved practices in the joint
> ALAC/GNSO wg on support for new gtld applicants where i am a co-chair.
> 
> The following gave me pause.
> 
>> 5.4.2            Duty to Remind Participants and Speakers
>> 
>> a.     The GNSO Council Chair or Vice-Chairs, Working Group Chair, Work
> Team Chair, Committee Chair, or Chair of any other organization formed by
> the GNSO shall remind all participants to provide Disclosures of Interest
> and updates to Disclosures of Interest at the beginning of each meeting
> during which the Relevant Parties will discuss or act upon the specific
> matter(s) to which the disclosure pertains and such disclosures shall be
> recorded in the minutes of that meeting.
> 
> You will note with relief, i hope, that i am not still kvetching about
> polling everyone at every meeting.  i think i have figured out how to do
> with with minimum discomfort.
> 
> What i am wondering about is the meaning of "all participants"
> 
> Are staff members in a WG, participants?  i tend to think so, not in
> relation to this rule necessarily but in terms of their 'participation' in
> the group.  the express opinions and make suggestions.  true they aren't a
> formal part of the consensus making, but in how many groups have we made
> recommendations that the Staff was dead set against.
> 
> so it occurs to me that yes, they are included in 'all participants'
> 
> of course we have never asked them for SOI/DOI, and the assumption is that
> of course their only Interest is ICANN and its well being of the Internet
> and that this goes without saying.
> 
> However, to what extent is that the whole story.  Some might be
consultants
> with other customers on the side.  Or some may have outside interests or
> financial relationships that would be neither corrupt nor against their
> employment contract, but that might intersect with the work being done.
> 
> Now, I know the easiest path it to just continue to ignore the interests
of
> the participating staff, but as most know, I sometimes am unable to choose
> the easiest path.
> 
> So I am looking for guidance from my fellow WT members.
> 
> thanks
> a.
> 
> 
> 
> On 5 Aug 2010, at 19:36, Ray Fassett wrote:
> 
>> Our baby is walking now huh?  They grow up so fast J
> 
> and as an parent knows, when they start walking, that is when the trouble
> truly begins.
> 
> a.
> 
>>  
>> THANK YOU Ken.
>>  
>> Ray
>>  
> 
> 
>