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RE: [gnso-outreachdiscussion] AW: AW: Work on GNSO outreach
- To: "William Drake" <william.drake@xxxxxx>, "KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx" <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-outreachdiscussion] AW: AW: Work on GNSO outreach
- From: <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:29:29 -0700
<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000;
font-size:10pt;"><div>Hello!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks, Bill, for
reinvigorating the discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>A "clearer layout of
the constituency views" would be good, but not just on the prior motion.
The BC remains opposed to that, but we support getting a clearer picture of
what outreach is being done now, at the constituency and organizational levels,
so as to fine-tune the
motion.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div><br></div><div>John
Berard</div><div>Founder</div><div>Credible Context</div><div>58 West Portal
Avenue, #291</div><div>San Francisco, CA 94127</div><div>m:
415.845.4388</div><div><br><br></div>
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-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: Re: [gnso-outreachdiscussion] AW: AW: Work on GNSO outreach<br>
From: William Drake <<a
href="mailto:william.drake@xxxxxx";>william.drake@xxxxxx</a>><br>
Date: Thu, April 26, 2012 7:30 am<br>
To: "<<a href="mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx";>KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx</a>>" <<a
href="mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx";>KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
Cc: <<a
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>, <<a
href="mailto:gnso-outreachdiscussion@xxxxxxxxx";>gnso-outreachdiscussion@xxxxxxxxx</a>>,
<br>
<<a href="mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>,
<<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx";>rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
<br>
Hi<div><div> </div> <br><div><div>On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:22 PM, <<a
target="_blank" href="mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx";>KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx</a>>
<<a target="_blank"
href="mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx";>KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx</a>> wrote:</div><br
class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left:
blue 2px solid; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;"> <div> <div dir="ltr"
align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="547340619-25042012">All,</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr"
align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="547340619-25042012"></span></font> </div> <div dir="ltr"
align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="547340619-25042012">after an official mailing list was opened some time
ago I didn't see any new incoming member to the arena. So we seem to be the
same group as before - small but power- and thoughtful.</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="547340619-25042012"></span></font> </div> <div dir="ltr"
align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="547340619-25042012">As I'd like to prepare some input to the council
I'll try to restart the discussion on this pending issue.</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="547340619-25042012"></span></font> </div> <div dir="ltr"
align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="547340619-25042012">It seems to me that we have the
choice</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2"><span class="547340619-25042012">- either to keep the
item further on hold until the current budget questions are
solved</span></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>It'd be good to not
only solve the budgetary questions but also to get some clear and organized
information from the board and staff about their current outreach discussions,
and how anything the GNSO might do would mesh with
these.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: blue 2px
solid; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;"><div> <div dir="ltr"
align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="547340619-25042012">- or (as I understand John suggesting) to start with
a clearer layout of the constituency
views</span></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>NCSG's views have
been pretty clear, we voted for the OTF motion. But a clearer layout of
other constituency's views would be interesting, as would any concrete
proposals of a superior
alternative.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>Bill<br><blockquote
type="cite" style="border-left: blue 2px solid; margin-left: 8px;
padding-left: 8px;"><div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="547340619-25042012"></span></font> </div> <div dir="ltr"
align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span
class="547340619-25042012">Please let me know your
comments/preferences.</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="547340619-25042012">I'll
return to the list after on Friday a business trip.</span></font></div>
<div> </div><br><div><span lang="de"><font face="Courier New"
size="2">Best regards</font></span> <br><span lang="de"><font face="Courier
New" size="2">Wolf-Ulrich</font></span> </div> <div> </div><br>
<blockquote style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir="ltr"> <div dir="ltr"
class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="de" align="left"> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font
face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>Von:</b> <a target="_blank"
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a> [<a
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>]
<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 21. März 2012 19:08<br><b>An:</b> William Drake;
Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich<br><b>Cc:</b> <a target="_blank"
href="mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx</a>; <a target="_blank"
href="mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx";>rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx</a><br><b>Betreff:</b>
RE: AW: Work on GNSO outreach<br></font><br></div> <div></div><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <div>I would be
more than happy to lay out -- as clearly as I can -- the BC view in support of
a refreshed drafting team.</div> <div><br></div> <div>Berard<br></div>
<div><br></div> <div>John Berard</div> <div>Founder</div> <div>Credible
Context</div> <div>58 West Portal Avenue, #291</div> <div>San Francisco, CA
94127</div> <div>m: 415.845.4388</div> <div><br><br></div> <blockquote
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webmail="1"> <div id="wmQuoteWrapper">-------- Original Message
--------<br>Subject: Re: AW: Work on GNSO outreach<br>From: William Drake
<<a target="_blank"
href="mailto:william.drake@xxxxxx";>william.drake@xxxxxx</a>><br>Date: Wed,
March 21, 2012 7:51 am<br>To: <<a target="_blank"
href="mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx";>KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>Cc: <<a
target="_blank" href="mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>,
<<a target="_blank"
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>,
<br><<a target="_blank"
href="mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx";>rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx</a>><br><br>Hi<br>
<div></div><br> <div> <div>On Mar 20, 2012, at 4:58 PM, <<a
href="mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx"; target="_blank">KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote
style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px"
type="cite"> <div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space"> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span
class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2">Hi,</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span
class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"></font></span> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span
class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">just
back from Costa Rica, I was thinking how to get us a bit more streamlined in
one direction. Clearly, the team wasn't given a "mandate" by the council with a
strong guideline where to go. We should just sort out the options we may have
in the current situation und present them to the council in a transparent way.
The option preferred could become the compromise solution. Any outcome
possible.</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span
class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"></font></span> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span
class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2">Alternative options (maybe not exhausting):</font></span></div> <ol
dir="ltr"> <li> <div align="left"><span class="283402821-20032012"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Re-enter the original OTF motion and
vote</font></span></div></li></ol></div></blockquote>presumably with the same
result<br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 8px;
MARGIN-LEFT: 8px" type="cite"> <div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word;
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"> <ol dir="ltr"
start="2"> <li> <div align="left"><span class="283402821-20032012"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Request the - still existing - OTF
charter drafting team (maybe enriched by additional volunteers) to revise
the charter by giving clear guidelines with regards to</font></span></div> <ul>
<li> <div align="left"><span class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">allocating the survey</font></span></div> </li><li> <div
align="left"><span class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">responsibility of the SGs/constituencies and the OTF for
outreach planning and implementation</font></span></div> </li><li> <div
align="left"><span class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">OTF
structure</font></span></div></li></ul></li></ol></div></blockquote> <div>Per
previous, what would make the most sense to me is that CSG and any other
parties that had problems with the OTF report spell them out and offer
solutions in clear and unambiguous language. A refreshed DT could then
look at these and see if they can be incorporated without gutting foundational
principles like coordination and sharing of information, best practices, etc.
If so, we could then proceed to another vote effort. If not, not,
in which case we kick the can down the road to 3.</div> <blockquote
style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px"
type="cite"> <div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space"> <ol dir="ltr" start="3"> <li> <div
align="left"><span class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">Put the decision on hold until the FY13 budget allocation
re the various outreach activities requirements is done. Derived from that the
assignment of responsibilities may become more
clear.</font></span></div></li></ol></div></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote></span></blockquote></div>
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