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RE: [gnso-outreachdiscussion] AW: AW: Work on GNSO outreach

  • To: "William Drake" <william.drake@xxxxxx>, "KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx" <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-outreachdiscussion] AW: AW: Work on GNSO outreach
  • From: <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:29:29 -0700

<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; 
font-size:10pt;"><div>Hello!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks, Bill, for 
reinvigorating the discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>A "clearer layout of 
the constituency views" would be good, but not just on the prior motion.&nbsp; 
The BC remains opposed to that, but we support getting a clearer picture of 
what outreach is being done now, at the constituency and organizational levels, 
so as to fine-tune the 
motion.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div><br></div><div>John 
Berard</div><div>Founder</div><div>Credible Context</div><div>58 West Portal 
Avenue, #291</div><div>San Francisco, CA 94127</div><div>m: 
415.845.4388</div><div><br><br></div>
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-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: Re: [gnso-outreachdiscussion] AW: AW: Work on GNSO outreach<br>
From: William Drake &lt;<a 
href="mailto:william.drake@xxxxxx";>william.drake@xxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
Date: Thu, April 26, 2012 7:30 am<br>
To: "&lt;<a href="mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx";>KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;" &lt;<a 
href="mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx";>KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: &lt;<a 
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;, &lt;<a 
href="mailto:gnso-outreachdiscussion@xxxxxxxxx";>gnso-outreachdiscussion@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;,
   <br>
    &lt;<a href="mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;, 
&lt;<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx";>rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
Hi<div><div> </div> <br><div><div>On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:22 PM, &lt;<a 
target="_blank" href="mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx";>KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; 
&lt;<a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx";>KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br 
class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: 
blue 2px solid; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;">   <div> <div dir="ltr" 
align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span 
class="547340619-25042012">All,</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" 
align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span 
class="547340619-25042012"></span></font>&nbsp;</div> <div dir="ltr" 
align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span 
class="547340619-25042012">after an official mailing list was opened some time 
ago I didn't see any new incoming member to the arena. So we seem to be the 
same group as before - small but power- and thoughtful.</span></font></div> 
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span 
class="547340619-25042012"></span></font>&nbsp;</div> <div dir="ltr" 
align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span 
class="547340619-25042012">As I'd like to prepare some input to the council 
I'll try to restart the discussion on this pending issue.</span></font></div> 
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span 
class="547340619-25042012"></span></font>&nbsp;</div> <div dir="ltr" 
align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span 
class="547340619-25042012">It seems to me that we have the 
choice</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" 
face="Arial" size="2"><span class="547340619-25042012">- either to keep the 
item further on hold until the current budget questions are 
solved</span></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>It'd be good to not 
only solve the budgetary questions but also to get some clear and organized 
information from the board and staff about their current outreach discussions, 
and how anything the GNSO might do would mesh with 
these.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: blue 2px 
solid; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;"><div> <div dir="ltr" 
align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span 
class="547340619-25042012">- or (as I understand John suggesting) to start with 
a clearer layout of the constituency 
views</span></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>NCSG's views have 
been pretty clear, we voted for the OTF motion. &nbsp;But a clearer layout of 
other constituency's views would be interesting, as would any concrete 
proposals of a superior 
alternative.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>Bill<br><blockquote
 type="cite" style="border-left: blue 2px solid; margin-left: 8px; 
padding-left: 8px;"><div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" 
face="Arial" size="2"><span 
class="547340619-25042012"></span></font>&nbsp;</div> <div dir="ltr" 
align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span 
class="547340619-25042012">Please let me know your 
comments/preferences.</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font 
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="547340619-25042012">I'll 
return to the list after on Friday a business trip.</span></font></div> 
<div>&nbsp;</div><br><div><span lang="de"><font face="Courier New" 
size="2">Best regards</font></span> <br><span lang="de"><font face="Courier 
New" size="2">Wolf-Ulrich</font></span> </div> <div>&nbsp;</div><br> 
<blockquote style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir="ltr"> <div dir="ltr" 
class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="de" align="left"> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font 
face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>Von:</b> <a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a> [<a 
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>] 
<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 21. März 2012 19:08<br><b>An:</b> William Drake; 
Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich<br><b>Cc:</b> <a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx</a>; <a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx";>rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx</a><br><b>Betreff:</b>
 RE: AW: Work on GNSO outreach<br></font><br></div> <div></div><span 
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <div>I would be 
more than happy to lay out -- as clearly as I can -- the BC view in support of 
a refreshed drafting team.</div> <div><br></div> <div>Berard<br></div> 
<div><br></div> <div>John Berard</div> <div>Founder</div> <div>Credible 
Context</div> <div>58 West Portal Avenue, #291</div> <div>San Francisco, CA 
94127</div> <div>m: 415.845.4388</div> <div><br><br></div> <blockquote 
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webmail="1"> <div id="wmQuoteWrapper">-------- Original Message 
--------<br>Subject: Re: AW: Work on GNSO outreach<br>From: William Drake 
&lt;<a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:william.drake@xxxxxx";>william.drake@xxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>Date: Wed, 
March 21, 2012 7:51 am<br>To: &lt;<a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx";>KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>Cc: &lt;<a 
target="_blank" href="mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;, 
&lt;<a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;, 
<br>&lt;<a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx";>rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br><br>Hi<br>
 <div></div><br> <div> <div>On Mar 20, 2012, at 4:58 PM, &lt;<a 
href="mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx"; target="_blank">KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; 
wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote 
style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px" 
type="cite"> <div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; 
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space"> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span 
class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" 
size="2">Hi,</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span 
class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" 
size="2"></font></span>&nbsp;</div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span 
class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">just 
back from Costa Rica, I was thinking how to get us a bit more streamlined in 
one direction. Clearly, the team wasn't given a "mandate" by the council with a 
strong guideline where to go. We should just sort out the options we may have 
in the current situation und present them to the council in a transparent way. 
The option preferred could become the compromise solution. Any outcome 
possible.</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span 
class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" 
size="2"></font></span>&nbsp;</div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span 
class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" 
size="2">Alternative options (maybe not exhausting):</font></span></div> <ol 
dir="ltr"> <li> <div align="left"><span class="283402821-20032012"><font 
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Re-enter the original OTF motion and 
vote</font></span></div></li></ol></div></blockquote>presumably with the same 
result<br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 8px; 
MARGIN-LEFT: 8px" type="cite"> <div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; 
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"> <ol dir="ltr" 
start="2"> <li> <div align="left"><span class="283402821-20032012"><font 
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Request the - still existing - OTF 
charter drafting&nbsp;team (maybe enriched by additional volunteers) to revise 
the charter by giving clear guidelines with regards to</font></span></div> <ul> 
<li> <div align="left"><span class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff" 
face="Arial" size="2">allocating the survey</font></span></div> </li><li> <div 
align="left"><span class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff" 
face="Arial" size="2">responsibility of the SGs/constituencies and the OTF for 
outreach planning and implementation</font></span></div> </li><li> <div 
align="left"><span class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff" 
face="Arial" size="2">OTF 
structure</font></span></div></li></ul></li></ol></div></blockquote> <div>Per 
previous, what would make the most sense to me is that CSG and any other 
parties that had problems with the OTF report spell them out and offer 
solutions in clear and unambiguous language. &nbsp;A refreshed DT could then 
look at these and see if they can be incorporated without gutting foundational 
principles like coordination and sharing of information, best practices, etc. 
&nbsp;If so, we could then proceed to another vote effort. &nbsp;If not, not, 
in which case we kick the can down the road to 3.</div> <blockquote 
style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px" 
type="cite"> <div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; 
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space"> <ol dir="ltr" start="3"> <li> <div 
align="left"><span class="283402821-20032012"><font color="#0000ff" 
face="Arial" size="2">Put the decision on hold until the FY13 budget allocation 
re the various outreach activities requirements is done. Derived from that the 
assignment of responsibilities may become more 
clear.</font></span></div></li></ol></div></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote></span></blockquote></div>
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