RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposed agenda for PEDNR WG call

["Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Tim

Very true

Michele

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From: Tim Ruiz [tim@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 18 August 2009 16:57
To: Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
Cc: Marika Konings; gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx; James M. Bladel
Subject: RE: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposed agenda for PEDNR WG call

Michele,

Keep in mind that with or without 3.12 of the new agreement Registrars
cannot evade compliance by blaming their resellers. If the names are
regsitered through their accreditation, the Registrar is responsible for
compliance with all RAA requirements and applicable consensus policies.
The new 3.12 simply requires Registrars to require their resellers to
include certain requirements in their registration agreements.

If a reseller is not compliant with a certain policy, it would be the
Registrar who is ultimately responsible.

Tim

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Subject: Re: [gnso-pednr-dt] Proposed agenda for PEDNR WG call
From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, August 18, 2009 10:29 am
To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>,
"gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-pednr-dt@xxxxxxxxx>



On 18 Aug 2009, at 16:07, James M. Bladel wrote:

>
> Thanks, Marika.
>
> Before we dive too deeply into questions about resellers, I'd
> encourage
> folks to review the new Registrar Accreditation Agreement (adopted
> early
> by many major registrars). Specifically, it contains provisions
> addressing the relationship between registrars and resellers,
> beginning
> with the new language in Sec. 3.12.
>
> http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/agreements.html
>
> With this in mind, I would propose that we make no distinction between
> "resellers" and "registrars" for the purposes of this PDP.


The problem with the new RAA is two fold:

1 - Not all registrars have signed it as yet. The biggest ones have,
but it would be useful to get a breakdown of the actual numbers on RAA
1 vs RAA 2 (where "2" is the more recent iteration)

2 - A LOT of registrars who have resellers will not have signed
contracts with the resellers AND imposing a change in the relationship
after the agreement (if any) has been in force for an extended period
of time could be problematic


>
>
> + Roll-call
> + Finalization of PEDNR public comment announcement
ok

> + Review of constituency input template
ok

> + Continue discussion on registrar survey – which information is
> required to answer charter questions?

Can we try to avoid the subject of price entirely this evening. I
think it's been done to death at this stage :)


> + Discussion of example of a ‘so-called reseller that is likely a
> Registrar’ provided by Garth Bruen

It might be prudent not to discuss this unless someone from
DemandMedia is involved in the conversation and it's not as if they're
hard to contact. If the WG is going to spend its (and my) time on some
kind of witch hunt of registrars then I can't see how it's going to
progress anything and I can't imagine I'd be alone in that view
(though I could be wrong ...)


> + Schedule for next and further meetings
>
>

Mr Michele Neylon
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