Re: [gnso-pednr-dt] FW: Request for clarification - RySG comment on PEDNR Proposed Final Report

[Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>]

After reading the RySG comment, I now see that at least part of the 
problem is our use of the term "redemption" to apply to both the RGP 
and for "renewals" that happen during the auto-renew grace period. 
Indeed, the very name of the PDP used this terminology from the 
start. One of the suggestions that I am making on the overall report 
is to use "renewal" for the period preceding a formal delete.
Alan

At 08/05/2011 12:15 PM, Marika Konings wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Following the WG's request for clarification in relation to the RySG 
> comments on section 7, please find further input from the RySG attached.
> With best regards,
>
> Marika
>
> From: "David W. Maher" <<mailto:dmaher@xxxxxxx>dmaher@xxxxxxx>
> Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 09:08:15 -0700
> To: Marika Konings <<mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: cher <<mailto:cherstubbs@xxxxxxx>cherstubbs@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Request for clarification - RySG comment on PEDNR 
> Proposed Final Report
> Dear Marika:
> Attached is a memorandum prepared by the Registries Stakeholder 
> Group responding to your request for clarification.
> Please let me know if you need anything further on this.
> David
> David W. Maher
> Chair. Registries Stakeholder Group
> Senior Vice President - Law & Policy
> Public Interest Registry
> +1 312 375 4849
>
> From: Marika Konings 
> [<mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:49 AM
> To: David W. Maher
> Subject: Request for clarification - RySG comment on PEDNR Proposed 
> Final Report
> Dear David,
>
> The Post-Expiration Domain Name Recovery (PEDNR) Working Group has 
> started to review the comments received as part of the public 
> comment forum on its proposed Final Report. It would like to ask a 
> clarification of the RySG on the comment below as, following review 
> of the relevant section, the WG does not understand the RySG 
> statement as it considers that section sufficiently clear. I would 
> appreciate if you could provide me with any additional information 
> you think might be helpful for the WG to understand the RySG's point 
> of view on this particular section.
> Thanks,
>
> Marika
>
> Section 7. Deliberations of the Working Group
> "Charter Question 1: Whether adequate opportunity exists for 
> registrants to redeem their expired domain names"
> The report states the following:
> " In the current situation, the registrar is generally immediately 
> charged by the registry for the auto-renewal following expiration; 
> those costs are recovered from the registrant if it redeems the 
> registration or reimbursed if the registration is deleted during the 
> Auto-Renew Grace Period. Some suggested that an option would be to 
> review this practice and explore whether the registrycould absorb 
> the costs, or whether another model could be explored. Others 
> suggested that for registrars that do not delete the name early, a 
> renewal grace period should always be offered to registrants."
> RySG comment:
>             This statement implies that if the registration is 
> deleted during the Auto-Renew Grace Period the registrar 
> isabsorbing the extra costs from the auto-renewal charge following 
> expiration. This should be clarified, because the registrar either 
> (a) never charges the registrant in the first place, or (b) is 
> reimbursed by the registry if the registrar deletes the domain 
> during Auto-renew Grace Period and reimburses the registrant.